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Old 09-13-2005, 01:06 AM   #1
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Well I was looking up online speech synthesis information for a friend and I found a site talking about "Do You Speak American?". One thing led to another and I found myself looking up on google "New Jersey accent".

I don't know whether I should be pissed or just feel sorry for the many ignorant people who think they actually know what a New Jerseyan sounds like because of the way we are portrayed in the movies. Listen - let's get this straight - we do not sound like that at all. What is considered a New Jersey accent is actually a New York accent - which some of northern NJ shares because of it's location. The other thing - a lot of New Yorkers move here and I know this might be hard to believe - but they bring that accent with them.

Just for the record NO New Jerseyan I have ever heard says "New Joisey" - but that seems to be a running joke whenever I go outside the state and say I'm from New Jersey. Usually the response is - "You mean New Joisey? HAHAAAHAAA" As some one in a messageboard said - No one in New Jersey says that and the joke is getting old. I think with all the turnpike jokes and "You from Joisey" jokes - that people outside of NJ must have very little imagination - they've rehashed the same jokes for decades.

What other ignorant stereotypes are there about New Jersey?

One other thing - when I was out in oregon I had been asked repeatedly if NJ has any trees. The standing joke about our beaches seems to involve hypodermic needles - which is funny - because that stereotype came about because New York dumped a section of Fresh Kills Landfill into the water, which then washed up on our beaches. new Jersey then proceeded to sue them for the clean up - which NY had to pay. This happened during the 70's whch just shows how ignorant people can be. New Jersey actually has the toughest water standards in the country.

By the way - my turnpike exit is 8A. I just wanted to make sure I saved some people from asking that old joke too.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:30 PM   #2
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By the way - my turnpike exit is 8A. I just wanted to make sure I saved some people from asking that old joke too.
IIRC that is next to good old SR-32 and near CR-535.

The NJTP is great road (although a bit expensive) if you are traveling from DEL MEM Bridge to GW Bridge. The most direct path if I remember my geography correctly.

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One other thing - when I was out in oregon I had been asked repeatedly if NJ has any trees. The standing joke about our beaches seems to involve hypodermic needles - which is funny - because that stereotype came about because New York dumped a section of Fresh Kills Landfill into the water, which then washed up on our beaches. new Jersey then proceeded to sue them for the clean up - which NY had to pay. This happened during the 70's whch just shows how ignorant people can be. New Jersey actually has the toughest water standards in the country.

By the way - my turnpike exit is 8A. I just wanted to make sure I saved some people from asking that old joke too.
Related to the tree comment, It surprises me when I here it said that NJ has the highest population density of all 50 states. This is because I see all the relatively open areas in the Northwestern and Southern NJ. This tells me what I already now, the Northeastern part of NJ is very crowded.

When I hear the New "Joisey" accent, I usually think of Italian and Brooklyn. I guess I watch to many mob/gangster films.

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What other ignorant stereotypes are there about New Jersey?
NJ is full of toxic waste dumps and superfund sites.

If you remember seeing the Fletch Lives film. The is a scene when Fletch is listening for the list of toxic waste dumps, he stops his editor and says to please just tell me of the sites that are not in NJ.

IIRC from history class, Nikita Kruschov (sp?) the USSR leader visited the UN the US gov't drove him down to PHL to see the naval shipyard and back. They used the NJTP to get there. Afterwards Nikita was asked what he thought of NJ. His reply was that it was full of chemical plants and trees.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:58 PM   #3
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IIRC that is next to good old SR-32 and near CR-535.
I have no idea.
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The NJTP is great road (although a bit expensive) if you are traveling from DEL MEM Bridge to GW Bridge. The most direct path if I remember my geography correctly.
WelllOnly out of staters are driving from the Delaware Memorial Bridge to the George Washington Bridge (generally just passing through and not visiting NJ), so why should I care that it's expensive to travel the entire length on (I don't travel the entire length). I say better for them to pay for it than the NJ tax payers.

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Related to the tree comment, It surprises me when I here it said that NJ has the highest population density of all 50 states. This is because I see all the relatively open areas in the Northwestern and Southern NJ. This tells me what I already now, the Northeastern part of NJ is very crowded.
yeah, if you look the majority of people live in northeastern NJ (abour 10 miles on either side of the Turnpike and then along the RT 1 Corridor from Woodbridge down to Trenton, which includes my town, and then around Camden. The shore region, particularly Toms River is becoming a nightmare though. I think that sucks. Atlantic City is really the only city along the shore and much of the shore is protected. Look at the Pine Barrens - 1.1 million acres of woodland (mostly protected), the Meadowlands which currently includes 8,500 acres of protected marshland and wildlife habitat in the heart of the mos densly populated area in the country. not to mention the most expensive land in the country, then the northwest area where all the mountains are. Again another NJ stereotype shot to dust.
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When I hear the New "Joisey" accent, I usually think of Italian and Brooklyn. I guess I watch to many mob/gangster films.
yeah, it's generally a NY thing. They seem to be ashamed of it, so they act like it's our accent and make fun of it. It's rather hilarious. It's sort of like overhearing some New Yorkers at Seaside complaining about NJ and saying how boring it is. I just want to walk up to them and say "If you hate it so much, then why are you even here, why not go to the beaches on Long Island?" I actually think my cousin Steve may have done that this past summer.

I did a search on google for "NJ accent" and this thread is the second on the first page as of 10/2/05. Not too shabby there. Now if I could only get NJ Hotels and other key things in a good position. Anyway - number one is this forum on BBC America which talks about the NJ accent. I posted on it - Other then Southern Accents..

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NJ is full of toxic waste dumps and superfund sites.
The thing is, it's not necessarily quantity, but it's also size and location that counts too. Most of our toxic wastesites are in ONE location of the state (I initially said country which gives some indication of what I think of NJ ).
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If you remember seeing the Fletch Lives film. The is a scene when Fletch is listening for the list of toxic waste dumps, he stops his editor and says to please just tell me of the sites that are not in NJ.
There is a snide comment in "Cinderella Man" about NJ smelling and then I couldn't believe it - Weird NJ (well Weird US on the History Channel) had a snide comment too. I need to write to them about that. Why are tey perpetuating the erroneous negative stereotypes?
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IIRC from history class, Nikita Kruschov (sp?) the USSR leader visited the UN the US gov't drove him down to PHL to see the naval shipyard and back. They used the NJTP to get there. Afterwards Nikita was asked what he thought of NJ. His reply was that it was full of chemical plants and trees.
As is what most people see because all they do is drive through. I personally think that the NJ turnpike was one of the worst things to happen to NJ.
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:45 AM   #4
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I feel I have to weigh in at this point...

I agree with the sentiments above and it is kind of funny that the national perception of NJ is based on the very limited views available from the NJTP and Parkway.

But on the flip side, I kind of like the fact that this perception has limited the tourist traffic to some degree. I know that the shore towns and other areas really depend on that tourism but this state is getting pretty crazy when it comes to traffic.

Alot of my "leave it alone" sentiment also derives from the fact that when I g camping or site seeing or just walking the boardwalk i really don't want to have to listen to somebody with a "different" accent whining about NJ.

I like my state and I don't like people "passing thru" complaining about it.

As JerseyDevil said (but I will say it a little less tactfully): YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN GET THE HECK OUT!!!
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Well, there are many interesting topics here. I think it was South Jersey magazine where I saw, ''You from Joisey, I'm from Joisey.'' I think it is all in fun. Now I may have been in California for a long time but I still have my accent and I am proud of it. Now I am not positive it is a NJ accent accent but is definitely east coast. It is part of me. As for the Garden State Parkway, I love it. And once a year NJ is my home for the time I am there. I am completely at home. And a note for Jersey Devil. My son is getting ready to buy a home in Marlton. They did renew their lease Feb 1st because my son and his wife are having a ''discussion.'' She wants a new condo and he wants a house he can do gardening and such. Let's see who will win out. I told him a new condo sounds wonderful but then so does his idea. By the way, I cannot understand why anyone would ask if NJ has any trees. I have never seen so many beautiful trees in my life. Maybe they have never been to NJ, Take care. Marianita
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You know you're from Jersey if...

You've been seriously injured at Action Park.
You don't jog in the park, you smoke there.
18 to party and 21 to drink really means bring extra money for the bouncer.
All good mornings begin with a bagel, all good nights end at a diner and of course all good parties end with a fight.
You know that the only people who call it "Joisey" are from New York (usually The Bronx) or Texas.
You don't think of citrus when people mention "The Oranges."
You know that it's called "Great Adventure," not "Six Flags."
You've ordered a hard roll with butter, or pork roll and egg for breakfast.
It's pork roll, not taylor ham or canadian bacon!
Jersey girls are the best girls, just stay on their good side.
When you cut someone off, you get the horn and the finger.
When somebody tries to mimic a jersey accent you wanna take a bat to their head... badda bing
You've known the way to Seaside Heights since you were seven.
You've eaten at a diner, when you were stoned or drunk, at 3 am.
Whenever you park, there's a Camaro within three spots of you.
You remember that the "Two Guys" were from Harrison.
You know that the state isn't one big oil refinery.
At least three people in your family still love Bruce Springsteen, and you know what town Jon Bon Jovi is from.
You know what a "jug handle" is.
You know that a WaWa is a convenience store.
You know that the state isn't all farmland.
You know that there are no "beaches" in new Jersey - there's "The Shore," and you know that the road to the shore is "The Parkway" not "The Garden State Highway."
You know that "Piney" isn't referring to a tree.
Even your school cafeteria made good Italian subs, and, you call it a "sub" not a "submarine sandwich" or worse yet, a grinder, a "hoagie" or a "hero."
You remember the song from the Palisades Park commercials.
You know how to properly negotiate a Circle.
You knew that the last question had to do with driving.
You know that "Acme" is an actual store, not just a Warner Bros creation.
You know that this is the only "New..." state that doesn't require "New" to identify it (like, try ..Mexico, ..York, ..Hampshire (doesn't work, does it?).
You know how to translate this conversation: "Jeet yet?" "No, Jew?"
You only go to New York City for day trips, and you only call it "The City."
You know that a "White Castle" is the name of BOTH a fast food chain AND a fast food sandwich.
You consider a corned beef sandwich with lettuce and mayo a sacrilege.
In the 80's you wore your hair REALLY high.
You don't think "What exit" (do you live near?) is very funny.
You know that the real first "strip shopping center" in the country is Route 22.
You know that no respectable New Jerseyan goes to Princeton - that's for out-of-staters.
The Jets-Giants game has started fights at your school or local bar.
You live within 20 minutes of at least three different malls.
You can see the Manhattan skyline from some part of your town.
You've gotten on the wrong highway trying to get out of Willowbrook Mall.
You've eaten a Boardwalk cheese steak with vinegar fries.
You have a favorite Atlantic City casino.
You refer to all highways and interstates by their numbers.
Every year you have at least one kid in your class named Tony.
You know the location of every clip shown in the Sopranos opening credits.
You know that people from North Jersey go to Seaside Heights, and people from Central Jersey go to Belmar and people from South Jersey go to Wildwood.
You can spend countless hours on the boardwalk doing absolutely nothing...and still have fun.
You may say some words with an accent, but at least you don't say "ya'll".
You weren't raised in New Jersey -- you were raised in either North Jersey, Central Jersey or South Jersey.
You know 65 mph really means 80.
You don't consider Newark or Camden to actually be part of the state.
Its pronounced NORK not Newark
You remember the stores Korvette's, Two Guys, Rickel's, Channel, Bamberger's and Orbach's.
You also remember Palisades Amusement Park.
You start planning for Memorial Day weekend in February.
You've never pumped your own gas.
The only state to have farms, beaches, cities, vacation resorts, mountains, and they are never any more than a 4 hour drive. Oh, and NYC and Philly are extremely close as well.
You actually get these jokes and pass them on to other friends from New Jersey.
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Wow , that's cool, all those New Jersey sayings. I am pretty much qualified. So the proper thing to say is, ''The parkway'', not Garden State Parkway?'' I have my favorite casino which is Balleys and they made my car payments for me for the months of August and Sept. lol. I have eaten at alot of diners, my favorite being in Medford but the Harvest is nice too. I know about Wawas and jug handles but have never driven a circle there, here I have though. I been to Wildwood from South Jersey and I been to Cape May. Oh yes, I know,''Route 70 to Marlton.'' lol. Marianita
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I don't agree with all of the above items in "you know you're from NJ...", but I'd say probably at least 90% are right on. For instance, I don't agree with the "You don't jog in the park, you smoke there." and I'm trying to break New Jerseyans of this one - "You weren't raised in New Jersey -- you were raised in either North Jersey, Central Jersey or South Jersey." and this one I really disagree with "Its pronounced NORK not Newark ". There are so many "You know you're from New Jersey if..." lists out there, but I don't think I've seen this one before.

Nurv had posted in the "Why so down on NJ" thread about an artlce on Tomato Nation and I thought this artilcle was VERY fitting for this section...

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If I could ban a two-word phrase from the English language, any two-word phrase, I would pick one in particular immediately and without hesitation. No, not "Bush administration," because experience has sadly proven that ignoring that phrase doesn't make its subject go away (ditto "Hilton sisters"). No, it's a far more innocuous-sounding collection of syllables, but I could live a long and happy life if I never heard them again, to wit: "Which exit?"

It isn't funny. It just isn't, and I'll tell you why. It's not not funny in the sense that New Jersey natives have no sense of humor about ourselves or our state; when the rest of the world thinks your home is all gigantic hair and hypodermics on the beach, you kind of have to find a way to laugh about it. But it's one thing to bust on Jersey if you grew up there, because you know what the hell you're talking about. "Which exit?" tells me right away that you don't, because -- which exit off of which road?

Yeah, yeah, you "meant the Jersey Turnpike." First of all, it's not "the Jersey Turnpike." It's just "the Turnpike." Second of all, not every goddamn residential dwelling in the state faces onto it. Look, people: owning The Sopranos on DVD and really liking the song "Thunder Road" does not equal "knowing anything about Jersey," and when you think it does, you annoy the natives. Greatly.

Sorry, jeez! So, if I take the Jersey Turnpike to the house where you grew up --

"The Turnpike." It's just "the Turnpike."

Sorry. So, I take the Turnpike to…Interstate 78? Right? And then Route 124 to --

Okay, stop. It's just "78." In L.A., everyone calls it "the 10" and "the 2," but we don't do that. It's just the number, or "Route [number]." So it's the Turnpike to 78 West to 124, or the Turnpike to 22 West.

And how would I get to the New Jersey shore?

You mean down the shore? Various ways; the shore is big. Start by taking the Parkway, usually.

And once I'm at the shore --

"Once you're down the shore," you mean.

Uh…huh?

You go down the shore, and once you're there, you're…down the shore. I don't know why, it's just how we say it. Actually, it's more like "downashore," but whatever.

But I shouldn't go to the beach, right? Because of all the needles?

I have never seen a needle on a Jersey beach. That's not to say that they aren't there; I've just never seen one. I've seen needles on Cape Cod beaches several times, but the biggest issue I've had on Jersey beaches is a jellyfish warning. Which I should have heeded, but that's a story for another time.

Okay, good to know. So what's with the "bennies go home" bumper stickers?

Heh. I didn't know they still made those. Nobody seems to know where the word "bennies" comes from, but basically it's year-rounders telling the obnoxious house-share people to get bent.

Wow. Tough crowd in Joisey.

Okay: no. If you remember nothing else, please please remember this: "Joisey" is a Brooklyn pronunciation. We don't talk like that. Don't say it that way, or write it that way. Ever.

Excuse me, then: "Tough crowd in New Jersey."

It's…just "Jersey." Sometimes it's "Jerz" or "the Jerz" or "New Jerz," but it's usually just "Jersey."

So what is a Jersey accent, then?

Ray Liotta in GoodFellas has a classic Jersey accent, but it depends on where in the state you are. A North Jersey accent is a bit different from a South Jersey accent.

But…the state is tiny. How can it have two different accents?

It's tiny, but it's two different states, sort of. The north is what everyone thinks of as the "real" Jersey with the refineries and the towns all crammed together and whatnot; the south is more farmland, and the Pine Barrens, and so on.

"Farmland"? That's a joke, right?

Oy. Look, contrary to popular belief, it's not called "the Garden State" as a joke. Jersey is something like fifty percent arable land. The Pine Barrens is a forest, and it's big. The Watchung Reservation, which you can see from my parents' front porch, is horse trails and trees with a road running through it, and it's a fifteen-minute bike ride to a U.S. Open championship golf course. If all you see is the view out the window on the Parkway, yeah, it looks like a concrete hell, but the state is really pretty. Go through the Delaware Water Gap sometime; it's a nice drive.

Anyway. In the southern part of the state, you can still find people who believe in the Jersey Devil down there; it's where that legend originated.

That's an actual thing?

According to the guys on the front porch of the Kingston General Supply Store, it is. But…obviously it isn't. It's something colonial farmers made up to explain why their livestock kept getting eaten; apparently, "wolf" was too obvious for them.

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I don't understand jughandles.

It's really not that difficult, but everyone's a comedian all "what's the deal with airline peanuts" about them, so let me try to explain. You know how, when you exit a highway, you peel off to the right, and then you loop back around to the left to go into the town or whatever? Same exact principle, just on a smaller scale. On some Jersey roads, allowing turns from the left lane would back traffic all the way up to hell, so: jughandle. They're quite handy.

Maybe if you're used to all those crazy Jersey dri--

We don't drive that badly. Really. This is a fifteen-year-old statistic so I should probably hunt up a newer one, but as of 1990, Jersey had the third-lowest rate of traffic deaths in the 48 contiguous states -- with the most paved roads per hectare, or whatever. Which means that, given how crowded it is, we drive quite safely. Your best bet when driving in Jersey: move it or lose it. It's the pokey Pennsylvanians that tend to gum everything up, so step lively, and we're not kidding around with our left lane -- if you can't hack it, move over.

Well, if you're such awesome drivers, how come they don't let you pump your own gas?

I think it's because of how much road there is, and how many gas stations there therefore are, in the state, but I don't rightly know. It's annoying, that I do know.

Is Newark really a big scary ****hole?

So glad you asked! No. It isn't Mayberry, but it isn't the gold standard of dangerous crappy urban blight, either. It has a spiffy arts center and great restaurants, and an inexpensive and convenient (if often hilariously incompetent) minor-league team right near the train. (Awesomely, the Bears do not sell foam fingers, but rather foam bear paws. Hee.) The go-to ****hole in New Jersey is Camden, which is maybe not a fair categorization any longer, but as of ten years ago…yikes.

So, a lot of Mafia there, then?

A lot of crack addicts, is the problem in Camden.

The Mafia is not really something most Jerseyans deal with in their day-to-day lives. We all knew a couple kids who had pagers before anyone besides doctors carried them, and when that one girl's dad and boyfriend each bought her a Beemer for her birthday? Yeah, her dad was not "in paper" and her 35-year-old boyfriend was not "in dental supply." But it had nothing to do with us. I mean, I went to a girls' school; we didn't do a lot of illegal gambling or construction work.

But you listened to a lot of Bon Jovi.

Well, if it was on the radio.

You're from Jersey and you don't like Bon Jovi? Do you not like Springsteen either?

Okay, honestly, this is like asking a Californian if she "likes" the Pacific. It's not a like/dislike issue. It's…just there. Sure, some Californians -- the ones who surf, I'd imagine -- are going to actively love the Pacific, and some Jerseyans actively love the Boss. But for some of us, he's…just there.

Bon Jovi is really not as strongly identified with Jersey, in a weird way. It's more of a time-period thing than a Jersey thing -- like, we'll happily claim Bruce and Sinatra, but mention Bon Jovi to us and we're kind of like, "Oh, this is about the hair, isn't it. Okay, fine." We didn't really decide he was A Jersey Emblem; everyone else did, because of the perm. I mean, yeah, we all listened to their music, because everyone did, because they had two huge albums in a row and were all over MTV.

Yeah, about the hair…

I don't think I understand how we ended up holding the big-hair bag. Texas? Hello? Don't get me wrong, I have attended heavy-metal battles of the bands in Union (and I guarantee you, the North Jersey readers just went, "Ohhhhh man," because…ohhhhh man), and no question, that's the biggest hair I've ever seen, not counting Patti LaBelle. Double-process perm, back-combed, ten minutes -- not spritzes, minutes -- of Aqua Net at the roots? Sure. Light a match in the ladies' and it's a Michael Bay movie.

But I've seen that hair in Philly, too. And Augusta. And Cleveland. And upstate New York, like, two years ago. I myself sported the fetching (read: "ridiculous") Ocean-Spray-wave bangs, but we didn't really do the big foofy poodle hair at my school or around my town. A few girls did, the girls who drove Camaros and had married boyfriends and got permission to smoke at school from their parents. It was like Bon Jovi in that it wasn't a function of Jersey; it was a function of the eighties. When the eighties ended, so did that hair.

See, here's the thing. We had TV. We had magazines. New York is right there. It's not like Jersey doesn't know what's going on. A lot of the stuff we catch **** for, everyone else does or did -- and worse.

So…you didn't work in a mall?

No, I worked as a gravedigger in order to subvert the stereotype. Duh, of course I worked in a mall. I was sixteen, I lived near a mall, I wasn't really qualified to do anything else yet besides straighten t-shirts -- so I worked at a mall store, like half the teenagers in America. I mean, they've got malls in Florida. I've seen them. But Floridians get the dip**** questions about Disneyworld, I guess, and we get the mall question. And yes, my friends worked there too, and yes, I would time my break to coincide with my boyfriend's break and we'd meet at the Mrs. Field's. Yes, I am a Jersey cliché. Happy now?

I also worked at a church, and for a lobbyist organization, and as a pool tester. My question is whether people from the Minneapolis area get the mall crap, because you can see that mall from space, but I bet they don't. I bet they get the "cold enough for ya?" thing, and everyone trying to do the accent from Fargo, and Jerseyans get the mall thing.

I mean, see above. The whole country's got malls, and bad hair, and crappy driving, and pollution. We just get "the credit" for that stuff for some reason. The fact that we also coughed up Thomas Edison doesn't seem to count for anything. Or WFMU. Or Weird NJ. Come on, people. At least try to see the good.

I'm from California, and I think our tomatoes --

Just…stop right there. They're not better. They're just not. Find me a person with a California tomato tattooed on his or her person. Yeah, I didn't think so.

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Again - I don't agree with ALL of these - for instance the just calling it "Jersey" - it actually grates on my nerves a bit. It's been used quite a bit as putdown from NY. I also like having full service gas stations and prefer them over self service. Let the rest of the country have self service if they want - in general for having to pump their own gas - they generally have more expensive gas.

Just a note - my cousins live in Beachwood - just south of Toms River which is the frist town you enter whe leaving Seaside Heights - according to him they still have what they call the "Bennie Parade" at the end of the season. I have also gotten into arguments with my cousins because they have wanted to call me a "Bennie", at least asked if I was one first - but for the recorde - I am NOT a Bennie - I grew up in Bricktown adn when to school 4 blocks from the ocean in Pt Pleasant Beach at St Peters. So - the bennie name is still popular with the locals along the shore - as is the term shoobies as far as I know.

By the way - supposedly the term "benny" comes from the names of old train stations along the Jersey Shore line....

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I don't think I have been to Newark. But I asked my son about the pronunciation and he said people say something like,''Nwark'' only with little more emphasis on the ''new''. In other words it is not ''Newark'' as spelled. Maybe I am not clarifying it but you can get the idea. As for the New Jersey drivers, I don't see that they drive badly but the driving situation is different so they drive differently. I have never driven there in NJ but I don't think I would have a problem with it. We do not have jug handles but we have a lot of open roads which mean a temptation to speed. As regards tomatoes, I have never seen such nice red tomatoes anywhere like I did in New Jersey. Let's give due credit. I am a professional cook and notice those things. Now since there seems to be much a do about the accent I have given it more thought. It could be a combination of several things. It depends on different factors. As I told you I speak fluent Spanish but being Norwegian I naturally picked up some of the language from my parents. I was born and raised in Maryland and moved to California. So what kind of accent do you think I have? It is a combination. Interesting. So when you say that only the new Yorkers say,''New Joisey,'' it is quite possible. Am I making sense? LOL. Marianita
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You might be from New Jersey if...
1. You don't understand why there aren't more 24-hour diners elsewhere in the country.
2. You know what a Wawa is, and know the location of at least 15 of
them.
3. You think a mountain is that big freakin' hill in Atlantic
Highlands.
4. You know Asbury Park is no longer the mecca of East Coast resort
towns.
5. Even though there's a new Walmart in your town, you still go to the
Englishtown Auction for cheap stuff.
6. You can name all the flavors of salt water taffy.
7. Your car is covered with yellow-green dust in April and May.
8. You buy Shop-Rite brand food at Shop-Rite.
9. You can smell and know when it's low tide.
10. The Jets/Giants game has started fights at your school and/or
local bar.
11. There are no self serve gas stations and you like it that freakin'
way... "yous gotta problem wit dat?"
12. You've had sex on the beach, and I'm not talking about the
beverage.
13. You know how to successfully handle a traffic circle.
14. You know what skeeball is and you can get three 50's in a row.
15. You think the Olive Garden is crap and should have never opened any restaurants in New Jersey.
16. You've run out of money on the Parkway.
17. You're Italian.
18. You know where to get the best bagel.
19. Donald Trump is mentioned at least daily in your local paper.
20. You say "water" weird. (Wadder, Cawfee, Dowg, wadever)
21. Even your school made good Italian subs.
22. You've lived through hurricanes, nor'easters and fires, but have
never seen a tornado, earthquake, tsunami or volcano.
23. You can't believe MTV went to Seaside Heights.
24. You know that ACME is an actual store, not just a Warner Bros.
creation.
25. You only go to New York City for day trips.
26. You know what a "jug handle" is.
27. You have mandatory recycling. Enforced by law.
28. You've eaten a pork roll and cheese on a hard roll...and like it.
29. You go to at least one parade at the boardwalk each year.
30. You've pondered, "Maybe basketball would be more popular in New Jersey if the Nets didn't blow,"
31. You can go bowling at 1:30 A.M. (with automatic scoring)!
32. In high school, you worked at a Friendly's.
33. Route 18 doesn't freak you out at night.
34. Because your town was founded before 1776, all the restaurants,
taverns, and shops have "ye," "olde," and"colonial" in their names.
35. You don't have to go to red lobster to get fresh seafood.
36. You once said, "It smells like New York in here,"
37. You've waited for the goddamn drawbridge for more than 20 damn minutes.
38. At least three people in your family still love Bruce Springsteen.
39. There's a fruit and vegetable stand down the road.
40. "Anyone who makes bad pizza can go to hell" is your attitude.
41. You always use a minimum of 10 variations of the word "damn"while
driving.
42. You don't take any **** from anybody. Especially from someone from New York, because you live here for Christ's sake and just who the hell do they think they are anyway? Invading our damn beaches and bars, they're just here for the damn summer and they think they own the damn place and....
43. You've gone to the race track with twenty different daily double
bets from twenty different people
44. You've spent St. Patrick's Day in Belmar.
45. You know that there are bakeries which are not part of a
supermarket, but actual individual stores.
46. You've ordered a "hard roll with butter" for breakfast.
47. One time, a sea gull crapped on your head.
48. You've eaten at a Windmill, drunk off your ass, at 3am at least a
dozen times.
49. You know what a "benny" is and can pick one out at the beach.
50. You've planned a local trip around ensuring you pass at least one
Dunkin' Donuts.
*51. You don't think of citrus when people mention "The Oranges"
*52. You know that it's called "Great Adventure"... not "SixFlags",
dammit!
*53. When people ask you where you live, you tell them your
Parkway/Turnpike exit number.
*54. You watched "Mallrats" and said "I've been to that mall!"
*55. At least half the people you knew in high school went to Rutgers.
*56. You know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.
*57. Your big class trip in elementary school was to Morristown.
*58. You long for the days when the Devils wore Christmas colors.
*59. You know that the only people that call it "Joisey" are from New
York.
*60. You're radioactive and proud of it.
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Sorry Dave I moved this new "You know you're from NJ" list because it had nothing to do with people thinking NJ is a borough of NY - where it was initially posted and then also - I have to say - most of these things are negative stereotypes against NJ. I don't know why we should be "proud" of these lists. I mean - are you radioactive and proud of it? Do you say Cowfee - or is that more of a brooklyn/NY accent that has migrated across the river? The one about the Nets is a bit old - no one can deny that the Nets are good now. Of course now they're supposed to move to Brooklyn, but the way our politicians work, they'll probably allow the team to play in NJ, but rename themselves the Brooklyn Nets. I do like number 42 though

I don't deny I don't like reading them, so you are more than welcome to post more you come across, but please let's keep them in this thread, because I do think most of them just are stereotypes of New Jersey - some negative.
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47. One time, a sea gull crapped on your head.
I really LOL'd at that one because, yes, that has happened to me! (still laughing)

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I really LOL'd at that one because, yes, that has happened to me! (still laughing)
Good to see you back Debbie, I was afraid you might have left for some other messageboard. As for number 47 - I can luckily say that it has never happened to me.
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This is my first post. It's good to be here. I moved out of NJ in 1970 but my heart is still there, along with my Mom, brothers, nephews, and nieces. After bouncing around the country, I now reside in Florida, and get back every few years.

The first state I lived in outside the New Jersey/New York metropoitan area was Massachusetts. For years, I had many conversations like this:

Them: "Where did you grow up?"

Me: "New Jersey."

Them: "New Juhrsey?" (In Boston accent)

Me: "Yes, New JURR-Zee" (In NJ accent)

Them: "That's strange, you don't TALK funny!"

Me: "What do you mean, funny?"

Them: "Well, you don't say JOIZEY!"

Me; "NO ONE in New Jersey says Joizey."

Them: "Yes they do, I'e heard them."

Me: "No you didn't, because NO ONE from New Jersey says JOIZEE. If you heard someone say JOIZEE, they must have been an eighth-grade dropout from Brooklyn!"

Them: "Well I still think you don't sound like you're from New Juhrsey. You sound more like you're from Connecticut."

Me: "That's probably because I grew up in Bergen County, where people talk almost identically to people from Southwestern Connecticut. Besides that, the two areas probably have the greatest concentration of wealth on the face of the Earth!"

Them: "Well you mst have grown up in a city."

Me: "I grew up about 25 miles from New York City, but in a small rural town."

Them: "New Jurhsey has small, rural towns?"

Me: "My town was called Upper Saddle River. When I lived there, we had apple orchards, strawberry farms, a dairy farm, one general store called Elmer's, no sidewalks, no sewers, no street lights, a four-man police department, and a volunteer fire department."

Them: "That sounds like New Hampshuh!"

Me: "Actually, my town in the 1960s looked very much like a small New Hampshire town of today (the 1970s-80s).

Them: "I never would have thought that."

I've been doing my part to educate the rest of America about the Garden State since 1970. It's not an easy job, but somebody has to do it!
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This is my first post. It's good to be here. I moved out of NJ in 1970 but my heart is still there, along with my Mom, brothers, nephews, and nieces. After bouncing around the country, I now reside in Florida, and get back every few years.

The first state I lived in outside the New Jersey/New York metropoitan area was Massachusetts. For years, I had many conversations like this:

Them: "Where did you grow up?"

Me: "New Jersey."

Them: "New Juhrsey?" (In Boston accent)

Me: "Yes, New JURR-Zee" (In NJ accent)

Them: "That's strange, you don't TALK funny!"

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I've been doing my part to educate the rest of America about the Garden State since 1970. It's not an easy job, but somebody has to do it!
Welcome Jersey Warren. I love it. I've had the same encounters. People have no idea what NJ is like. But as you said, it's not an easy job, but someone has to do it.

BTW - this thread is one of the most retrieved threads off of Google.
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While I'm on this page, I thought I'd say something about that, too.

My grandfather, who was born and raised in Jersey City, not far from Newark, always pronounced it to rhyme with Buick: "Newick."

Am I the only one to snicker when out of staters mispronounce the names of NJ cities?

It's Puh-SAKE, not Pa-SAY-ick.

It's Pa-RAM-us, not PAR-A-mus.

It's SEA-caucus, not Se-CAU-cus.
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Good to see you back Debbie, I was afraid you might have left for some other messageboard. As for number 47 - I can luckily say that it has never happened to me.
Thanks JD! There's only one Jersey message board for me Been very busy lately with work and music, but I'm still lurking around

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While I'm on this page, I thought I'd say something about that, too.

My grandfather, who was born and raised in Jersey City, not far from Newark, always pronounced it to rhyme with Buick: "Newick."

Am I the only one to snicker when out of staters mispronounce the names of NJ cities?

It's Puh-SAKE, not Pa-SAY-ick.

It's Pa-RAM-us, not PAR-A-mus.

It's SEA-caucus, not Se-CAU-cus.
I have always pronounced Newark as New-erk and Seacaus as Suh-cau-cus. It was only recently when I moved back to NJ that I have heard people saying "SEA-cauc-us". I'm going to have to ask my father about this, because he grew up in Newark and I would like to see how he pronounces it. I also say Puh-SAY-ick for Passaic. I do say Pa-RAM-us for Paramus though.
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Does anyone else have the "You say tomato, I say tomahto" song running through their heads? I've always said New-erk, Puh-SAY-ick and Suh-cau-cus too, and I grew up in Bergen County. My dad, however, who grew up in Patterson used to say them the other way.

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