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Old 01-26-2007, 01:31 PM   #1
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Question Sneaky (and confusing) E-Z Pass Lanes

Though this happened during my visit last October, I've been too busy to write about it until now. After I got home, I received three letters from Dollar Rental Car forwarding State of New Jersey "Notice of Enforcement Action" notices to me. First of all, Dollar Rental Car charged $25 to my credit card for handling each one.

Then I had to pay NJ E-Z the missed tolls, plus a $25 "administrative fee" for two of them. (They put two violations on one notice, whereas Dollar Rental Car split them into three violations and charged me $75.

If I had been attempting to evade the tolls, I would have accepted it as getting what I deserved. But I never even saw the signs, not once, but at three separate toll plazas on the Parkway on two different days. Where do they put the signs, on the moon?

For years, if you wanted to take the express lanes, you got into the left lanes. That is now apparently, the E-Z Pass lane. What if you don't want to take the local lanes? I could see no way to avoid the E-Z Pass lanes without getting all the way over to the right and taking the local lanes. I could see making this mistake once, but according to them it was three times. I can only guess about the other two plazas.

I think they deliberately make this confusing in order to collect more revenue. I emailed E-Z Pass and told them I have been a loyal Jerseyan in exile all these years but that I now felt like burning my Giants cap! (I know, JD thinks I should do that anyway!)

It's a shame when a visit to your home state leaves a bad taste in your mouth because of a highway authority that puts collecting revenue over the well-being of motorists.

Has anyone else here inadvertently gotten into the wrong lanes on the Parkway and been photographed by the "Big Brother Is Watching You" cameras? I'm not a dense, inattentive motorist. Isn't this setup very confusing?
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:18 PM   #2
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Though this happened during my visit last October, I've been too busy to write about it until now. After I got home, I received three letters from Dollar Rental Car forwarding State of New Jersey "Notice of Enforcement Action" notices to me. First of all, Dollar Rental Car charged $25 to my credit card for handling each one.

Then I had to pay NJ E-Z the missed tolls, plus a $25 "administrative fee" for two of them. (They put two violations on one notice, whereas Dollar Rental Car split them into three violations and charged me $75.

If I had been attempting to evade the tolls, I would have accepted it as getting what I deserved. But I never even saw the signs, not once, but at three separate toll plazas on the Parkway on two different days. Where do they put the signs, on the moon?

For years, if you wanted to take the express lanes, you got into the left lanes. That is now apparently, the E-Z Pass lane. What if you don't want to take the local lanes? I could see no way to avoid the E-Z Pass lanes without getting all the way over to the right and taking the local lanes. I could see making this mistake once, but according to them it was three times. I can only guess about the other two plazas.

I think they deliberately make this confusing in order to collect more revenue. I emailed E-Z Pass and told them I have been a loyal Jerseyan in exile all these years but that I now felt like burning my Giants cap! (I know, JD thinks I should do that anyway!)

It's a shame when a visit to your home state leaves a bad taste in your mouth because of a highway authority that puts collecting revenue over the well-being of motorists.

Has anyone else here inadvertently gotten into the wrong lanes on the Parkway and been photographed by the "Big Brother Is Watching You" cameras? I'm not a dense, inattentive motorist. Isn't this setup very confusing?
Sorry to hear you were charged without knowing you went through the EZ-Pass lanes.

(I personally think they should do away with all the toll booths, but that is a conversation for another day. )

I would complain to Dollar rental, but I am not sure what they would do for you.

I think each toll plaza should have a lane with a live person to collect the necessary toll. There are some plazas that are only automated (Exact change or EZ-Pass) which necessitate one to find exact change or go through the toll w/out paying.

I do not think the lanes are overly confusing, but I do think it is easy to get caught in the wrong lane due to the curving nature of the road.

My mom received tickets without cause. (Once at DEL MEM BR and Twice on GSP)

She paid the fine once, and I fought the fine the other 2 times for her.

When I fought the charges, I submitted the form and explained why she did not deserve the ticket. (Each time you need to pay for postage and the toll.)

I think it is a type of scam. Even if you are not guilty you have to pay the toll again and pay for postage.

I personally will not use EZ-Pass out of principle and that I do not trust government that much.

(EZ-Pass makes it very easy to track vehicle and hand out speeding tickets if someone is motivated enough to do so.)

It is easier for me to ignore using EZ-Pass since I do not travel regularly on EZ-Pass roads.

(If one is not overly concerned about time there are ways to avoid some of the (70˘) tolls, if one is willing to look at a map and plan their route accordingly.)

Although if the price of fuel goes above a certain price (depends on MPG of your vehicle), this would not be economical.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:52 PM   #3
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Angry Still more sneaky and confusing

I had the same experience. For the life of me I could not figure out how I could have been subject to a violation short of official fraud amounting to "highway robbery"! It was only when I googled and found this thread that I "figured out" that maybe I had done a "lane violation".

I knew I did not leave the toll station without paying the requested sum and without getting a "green light" from the station. I "studied" the lane entry signs before I selected the one I chose and selected to the best of my ability the correct lane. I think a motorist would have to know more than what the signs indicate to be free of the potential for violation. This is a scam and GSP knows it.

I, too, had an out-of-state license plate. Maybe that's the decisive factor in GPS deciding whether to spring the trap.

I am "weighing my options" at this point.
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:05 PM   #4
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The only good resolution I had was that after writing to the CEO of Dollar Rental Cars, I did get them to credit me for half of the service charge they originally charged me, so it cost me only $25, instead of $50, plus the charge to NJ EZ Pass, which totaled $50 plus the amount of the tolls.

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Old 08-24-2007, 08:11 AM   #5
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This happens all the time - to me and everyone I know! Up the GSP there are lane shifts and in the high traffic areas (Toms River etc) it is sometimes hard to get in the exact change lanes - they shoe-horn you into the EZ pass lane and then its a ticket! The other thing that happens a LOT is when the toll booths don't register your change - you throw in your 70 cents but the 'Paid' sign doesn't come up and half the time you throw in another quarter or a few dimes to make it come up. The money-grubbing on the highways is ridiculous - they either want to scrape every last penny they can from the poor commuters or they want to make us so beaten down and disgusted that we will agree to sell the highways to some of Corzine's buddies!
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:21 AM   #6
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Cindy Adams who has a column on Page Six in the NY Post did a huge rant on EZ Pass this week - she was driving thru Jersey from NYC to PA and got into one snafu after another. Should be required reading for every NJ pol.
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Cindy Adams who has a column on Page Six in the NY Post did a huge rant on EZ Pass this week - she was driving thru Jersey from NYC to PA and got into one snafu after another. Should be required reading for every NJ pol.
What were some problems she ran into? I mean for her - it would be entering the NJ Turnpike (going through EZ-Pass), driving along Turnpike, get off NJ Turnpike and go through EZ-Pass to pay your toll. If she "drove through" NJ to PA - there would be only two EZ Pass stops, well three or four if you count the bridge and tunnel. Although - you don't have to pay a toll when you come from Manhattan only leaving NJ. So basically - I don't really get it.
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Here s the link-
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092007...es_a_toll_.htm
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:55 AM   #9
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Jersey Warren,

I once had this kind of issue. I don't have a E-Z pass because I travel out only in weekends...

Once i was travelling south in GSP for Atlantic City, I accidentally got forced out to take the express lane... crowded and no hearts for the right indicator.

Well after 4 months, i received a notice in mail that I should pay $25 + 70 cents... which I voliated and the last date in next monday.

My SUVs trunk was clearly taken ... I think I was at the posted speed limit.

I received the notice on Friday, well thanks to the internet and I paid via credit card.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:14 PM   #10
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Angry NJ EZ Pass definitely a scam!

I feel compelled to chime in here. There are sections on the Parkway where the road surreptitiously splits and if you get confused, as I did, and end up in the ez pass express you will be sent a bill for the 70 cent toll + $25 "administration fee". And, don't even bother asking how to correct the problem at the next toll booth as they don't know a thing, they just work there. It's legal thievery! A scary scam affecting all who drive and don't happen to have the big brother ez pass system.
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I do believe this is a scam. I am a very conscientious driver, observing my surroundings and particularly when entering a toll area. Today, the Saturday before Christmas I get one of those dam "official legal notices" in the mail to pay that 25 dollars plus 70 cents. Let's all join together and get these scam artists.

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Old 12-27-2007, 09:39 AM   #12
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I like EZ_Pass for the convenience - but they should have some easy way for you to pay the 70 cents and avoid the fine - especially for honest mistakes. Not everyone is familiar with the toll roads. The only place where I see the "Missed the Toll?" sign is on the AC Expressway right before the visitors center. The thing is - I stopped off at the visitors center one time and there were two people from Philadelphia who were there who missed the toll. They were trying to get information on how to pay it but the visitors center was closed. They were people who made an honest mistake and were merely in the wrong lane. Now seriously - there are tons of signs that say "EZ Pass only" and so forth on the way up to the toll booth - but news flash - not everyone knows what EZPass is.

I wonder how other states work EZ-Pass and missed tolls. I know for instance that unlike NJ, Indiana's and Ohio's is not only FREE - but you also get a discounted toll fair for using it. But then again - we have a tax and spend government. We shouldn't look for any discounts from the NJ Legislature. In NJ you have to pay a dollar for the privilege of having EZPass.
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I like EZ_Pass for the convenience - but they should have some easy way for you to pay the 70 cents and avoid the fine - especially for honest mistakes. Not everyone is familiar with the toll roads. The only place where I see the "Missed the Toll?" sign is on the AC Expressway right before the visitors center. The thing is - I stopped off at the visitors center one time and there were two people from Philadelphia who were there who missed the toll. They were trying to get information on how to pay it but the visitors center was closed. They were people who made an honest mistake and were merely in the wrong lane. Now seriously - there are tons of signs that say "EZ Pass only" and so forth on the way up to the toll booth - but news flash - not everyone knows what EZPass is.

I wonder how other states work EZ-Pass and missed tolls. I know for instance that unlike NJ, Indiana's and Ohio's is not only FREE - but you also get a discounted toll fair for using it. But then again - we have a tax and spend government. We shouldn't look for any discounts from the NJ Legislature. In NJ you have to pay a dollar for the privilege of having EZPass.
$1/month to pay for the EZ-pass system. I think it is being used to pay for NJ gov't incompetence. (In my theory at any rate)

Not a bad thought about people being able to pay the toll without the admin. penalty. IIRC, at one time you were able to mail tolls to the GSP in an envelop (located at the toll booth) if you did not have the cash at the time. (I think it was done by the honor system)

I still think the best EZ pass is the one WITHOUT any toll booths. There must be a more efficient manner to pay for roads/bridges and tunnels than using toll booths. (fuel tax is one possible manner that comes to mind although I am sure that other means can be found.)

If toll booths are the best way to pay for roads than why are tolls not on every road in the state?

Although it (GSP/NJTP/ACE tolls) does not affect me much personally, the current toll system does not seem to make much sense to me.

A discounted fair would be a nice way to encourage more people to use EZpass.

Since I am familiar with many roads I can avoid many tolls by driving around them. If I travel to DE and/or points south I can cross the Delaware River at Trenton and avoid the tolls at the bridges.

In southern NJ I-295 is about the same as NJTP but much a better value to use.

In northern NJ, if time is not a critical issue, there are other alternatives to the NJTP.

With the new 1-way toll collection on the GSP, it is possible to avoid the 70˘ toll in certain areas with a minimum about of inconvenience.
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Exclamation New Jersey ezpass toll scam/fraud -- time for a class action law suit?

I was on the GSP on my way to Atlantic City 2 months ago and recently got a ticket in the mail for $0.70 + $25 admin fee for supposedly not paying the toll. I don't have an ezpass so I went through all the cash lanes and paid the exact change every time. Apparently, one of the tolls didn't register my change and now I have this ticket to deal with for $25.70.

I am sure this is not an isolated incident I think they are running this scam on a lot of people, especially with out of state plates. You pay the toll AND get a ticket for toll + fine! I wonder how their judges handle these cases, they are probably in on it too "lets raise money for the State by scamming the people." I hope they get exposed to the public for what they are doing, people get reimbursed, and whoever is responsible is brought to justice!

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I was on the GSP on my way to Atlantic City 2 months ago and recently got a ticket in the mail for $0.70 + $25 admin fee for supposedly not paying the toll. I don't have an ezpass so I went through all the cash lanes and paid the exact change every time. Apparently, one of the tolls didn't register my change and now I have this ticket to deal with for $25.70.

I am sure this is not an isolated incident I think they are running this scam on a lot of people, especially with out of state plates. You pay the toll AND get a ticket for toll + fine! I wonder how their judges handle these cases, they are probably in on it too "lets raise money for the State by scamming the people." I hope they get exposed to the public for what they are doing, people get reimbursed, and whoever is responsible is brought to justice!
I was the one who started this thread, and if you look back, you see I not only had the $25 fee from the state of New Jersey, but ANOTHER $25 fee from Dollar Rental Cars! What's more, when New Jersey combined charges on one statement, Dollar copied them and sent me multiple statements with a separate $25 charge for each "violation"! After writing to their CEO, I managed to negotiate a half price charge of only $12.50 per "violation"! I've ridden on the Parkway since it was built in 1954. My grandfather used to let me and my brothers throw the quarters in the toll basket when we were kids. If I find getting in the right lane confusing, what chance does a first-time visitor have?
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Just wondering if any body actually disputed with GSP authorities.

I'm interested in knowing this because I got a notice alleging that I did not pay $0.35!

And I decide to dispute with them.
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Just wondering if any body actually disputed with GSP authorities.

I'm interested in knowing this because I got a notice alleging that I did not pay $0.35!

And I decide to dispute with them.
I did dispute notices from GSP & NJTP. You still need to send in the amount of the toll.

If you dispute the infraction, you do not need to send in the $25 penalty. (at least not right away)

I never received a reply after disputing the infraction, so I never found out what if anything happens.
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I did dispute notices from GSP & NJTP. You still need to send in the amount of the toll.

If you dispute the infraction, you do not need to send in the $25 penalty. (at least not right away)

I never received a reply after disputing the infraction, so I never found out what if anything happens.
Thank you for your info! I just sent out my dispute with $0.35 check.
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Many of us have aired our grievances on the Consumer Affairs website:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/utilities/ez_pass.html

They will have a legal consultant review your grievance and possibly contact you.

As for myself, I was fined an administrative fee of $25 when I didn’t even use an e-zpass lane. There was no one in the booth to collect my toll, so I had no other choice but to drive through without paying. I sent in my uncollected bridge toll, but will not pay any undeserved administrative fee due to their lack of service at the toll plaza.
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If we had been driving our own car it would have been a snap to settle this. The GSP would have been reasonable, I think. The main problem was with Dollar Rent a Car, who multiplied NJ's violations by photocopying those NJ had combined on a single sheet and dividing them into multiple sheets with multiple fees. Needless to say, we'll never do business with them again!

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