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    Default How to control illegal imigration?

    Make Corzine the Governor of Texas and let him do to Texas what he is doing to N.J. and not only will the Mexicans not cross the borders, The Mexican Police will be working double time keeping all the Texan's from illegally crossing their borders for a cheaper life style. N.J. is now minus about 58,000 people so far. Its hard to work and want to pay taxes for Corzine's multiple pension program for only his people. Good Work Fidel Corzine.

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    Default Corzine Tell's The Truth

    This is cute, but we all know this really happened behind closed doors. This would be accurate if the multiple pensions were mentioned.

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    Default N.J. Lawmakers Multiple Pesions under fire


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    Lordmarc - can you do me a favor and post the article along with the link. Alos, please include some commentary. I don't want this to be a thread with just a bunch of links going to the Home News - there has to be some discussion. Also when the Home News takes the articles down, no one will know what was being pointed to or what you were trying to get at.
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    Default Corzine

    Hi lordmarc, Ofcourse Corzine and his buddies are not going to give up their pensions or even part of them. It is grossly unfair that they can collect them for years whether they work or not. I am anxious to see how the property taxes go. You know that only a portion of the sales tax increase goes to lowering property taxes. And there is alot of property in New Jersey. I look for Corzine to make his exit one of these days leaving the huge deficit behind and the property taxes the same as they are now. Marianita

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    Default Will lawmakers cut funds for their own pensions?

    Will lawmakers cut funds for their own pensions?
    Home News Tribune Online 08/14/06
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    TRENTON As New Jersey lawmakers move to slice the state's highest-in-the-nation property taxes, many wonder whether legislators will put their own publicly funded pensions under the knife to help cut taxes.



    Skepticism at the Statehouse is high given that 50 legislators accounting for about 42 percent of the Legislature work more than one public job.

    Those 50 lawmakers represent about 42 percent of the Legislature.

    They include 12 of 40 senators and 38 of 80 Assembly members, statistics that recently prompted the Center for Public Integrity in Washington, D.C., to rank New Jersey as worst in the nation for politicians who hold more than one public job.

    The special legislative committee charged with devising public worker benefits and pension reform recommendations to save taxpayers money is led by two legislators who also hold municipal jobs.

    Sen. Nicholas Scutari, D-Union, earned about $54,604 last year as Linden's prosecutor, while Assemblywoman Nellie Pou, D-Passaic, earned $35,260 in 2005 as Paterson's assistant business administrator. They each also make $49,000 per year as state legislators.

    When the committee held its first meeting Wednesday, neither Scutari nor Pou mentioned reforming pensions for elected officials, nor restricting pensions to one public job, when they read opening statements and questioned the state Treasury Department's top pension official.

    After the hearing, each said those issues will probably be discussed.

    "We're going to look at everything," said Scutari, a legislator for about two years who has worked for Linden for about 11 years.

    Pou, a legislator for about nine year who has worked for Paterson for about 13 years, said the panel will start "with a clean slate."

    "I honestly believe everything is on the table," Pou said. "I know you've heard that before, but in this case they've never been truer words."

    According to financial disclosure reports filed this spring by state legislators, 49 earned income from more than one government job last year.

    Since last year, Hunterdon County Freeholder Marcia Karrow joined the Assembly and Sen. Joseph Vitale became interim Woodbridge mayor, while Sen. Sharpe James, D-Essex, left office as Newark mayor on July 1.

    Two legislators opposed to lawmakers holding more than one office resigned other elected seats when elected to the Legislature last year.

    Assemblywoman Amy Handlin, R-Monmouth, resigned as a county freeholder, and Assemblywoman Jennifer Beck, R-Monmouth, resigned from the Red Bank council.

    Through multiple government jobs, state legislators and anyone else for that matter boost pensions they will one day receive. Legislators cannot receive state pensions until they're retired and age 60.

    Assemblyman Kevin O'Toole, R-Bergen, a member of the special benefits reform committee, said he supports basing pensions on one job and barring elected officials from getting pensions. He wants the committee to recommend such reforms.

    "We too as legislators have to sacrifice, and we have to lead before we ask others to follow," O'Toole said.

    In 38 states, holding more than one elected office is illegal, but New Jersey has 21 legislators who hold more than one elected post.

    New Jersey Policy Perspective, which has released several influential policy reports, has for years lobbied to ban dual office-holding.

    "Anyone who holds two offices is stopping someone else from holding one," NJPP President Jon Shure said. "If we care about participatory democracy, that's unacceptable."

    Holding two elected offices is a felony in Indiana that carries a prison sentence of up to three years in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordmarc
    In 38 states, holding more than one elected office is illegal, but New Jersey has 21 legislators who hold more than one elected post.

    New Jersey Policy Perspective, which has released several influential policy reports, has for years lobbied to ban dual office-holding.

    "Anyone who holds two offices is stopping someone else from holding one," NJPP President Jon Shure said. "If we care about participatory democracy, that's unacceptable."

    Holding two elected offices is a felony in Indiana that carries a prison sentence of up to three years in prison.
    I was completely shocked when I found out that NJ allows people to hold more than one elected office. I found this out when I heard that Sharpe James not only mayor of Newark, but also in the state legislature. I think this is completely wrong. People were NOT supposed to be career politicians, they're supposed to be "normal" people who wish to support their communities. This is one of the problems with NJ - we have too many damn career politicians, who don't care anything about the citizens they represent, but only their political careers.

    Yeah, people do vote people into office, but it's much harder to run against an incumbent. It's also much harder to keep track of what our politicians are doing in NJ. How many times does the Mayor of Newark, Trenton, Jersey City, etc, get on the evening news - which is controlled by NY and Philadelphia? How many times is the state legislature covered by these media outlets. Now that I have lived here again - I see that the majority of the problems come from the political environment of NJ and the absence of tv networks which cover OUR evening news, not some foreign state's.
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    Default Furor Corzine Made N.J. #1 in this topic

    Tax hikes in N.J. rank tops in U.S.
    Home News Tribune Online 08/15/06
    By GREGORY J. VOLPE
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    TRENTON New Jersey raised taxes more this year than any other state in the nation, according to a preliminary report released yesterday by the National Conference of State Legislatures.



    Among 44 states that provided tax information to the nonpartisan research group for state legislatures, New Jersey was one of three that hiked taxes by more than 1 percent and the only one to increase them by more than 5 percent.

    While New Jersey may be surpassed by Alaska as the tax-happiest state when the final report is released later this year, it was often cited in the report for tax hikes and stood in contrast to most of its peers that have surpluses and can cut taxes or raise funding to programs like education, health care or road projects.

    "New Jersey has faced fiscal challenges at this point in time when other states aren't facing the same level of difficulty," said Corina Eckl, fiscal affairs director for the conference, who co-authored the new report.

    New Jersey, stymied for more than five years by recurring deficits, was frequently cited in the report for cutting popular programs or raising taxes when other states saw a 25 percent cumulative increase in their year-end balances from fiscal 2005 to 2006.

    In one section, New Jersey was cited along with Texas for decreasing higher-education funding. New Jersey topped that list with a 2.5 percent cut, when nationwide higher-education funding increased by 6.3 percent.

    George Pruitt, chairman of the New Jersey Presidents' Council and president of Thomas Edison State College, said New Jersey's cuts mean higher costs and less access to higher education in New Jersey. Plus, he said, reduced funding will mean less research, leaving New Jersey at an economic disadvantage to other states.

    "The public invests in public education because it's a public good, not an institutional good," Pruitt said. "The fact that New Jersey is disinvesting in higher education when the rest of the country is investing in higher education does not bode well for the future of the state if this trend continues."

    Among the report's other findings:


    New Jersey is one of four states slated to cut funding for corrections, but the 0.1 percent decrease is reflective of how many New Jersey departments are operating on flat or reduced budgets.

    New Jersey was one of two states to raise its corporation and business tax by imposing a new surtax to raise $121 million; businesses are being allowed to take a long-deferred deduction, however, reducing the state's collections overall.

    Among three states that raised cigarette taxes, New Jersey had the smallest increase at 17.5 cents per pack, compared to $1 and 60-cent hikes in Texas and Vermont, respectively.
    The conference needed more information about New Jersey's Medicaid funding before including it in the study. Nationally, this funding increased by 6.3 percent. Treasury Department spokesman Mark Perkiss said New Jersey's funding will raise slightly from about $3.2 million to $3.5 million.

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    Default Osama Bin Corzine taxes pay for multiple pensions

    Corzine's everything but gravity tax took place yesterday. Now he is backing Menendez. Why do N.J. love Democrats? Menendez is in the lead. Wake up N.J., why support Corzine? Its time to fight Osama Bin Corzine and get his man Menendez out. We in N.J. now have a parking meter tax, and we continue to support Democrats? If it did not rain so much in N.J., I bet we would have a Solar tax. Remember, we are paying for their multiple pensions. If Menendez wins, then N.J. needs to get more taxes. When your homes go into Foreclosure, because it cant sell, like the millions that are on the market, (Try to drive down a street without a house for sale). Maybe then a wake up call will come. Don't pay your voted in taxes and your house is history. Then the Democrats will thank you by putting a surge charge on your back taxes. Then again, lets vote Menendez in, Lets give him another pension. Why not, he only has about 4. Corzine should raise more taxes so he can have 5.

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    Lordmarc - You know why New Jerseyans continue to vote democrat even though nothing has gottne better?

    1) people vote down party lines generally and even though NJ is almost evenly split it is starting to lean more heavily toward democrats.
    2) We have no broadcast media to keep an eye on our politicians like Pennsylvania and NY has. Eyewitness news hardly carries any NJ news, unless it's a shooting in Newark or some scandal like McGreevey.

    It's interesting to note that there was a poll recently done abotu whether people were upset by the new taxes and the majority said they weren't. Some of the comments made by people who were interviewed stated that it was needed to combat the budget deficit. Well the reason we have a budget deficit is because businesses are leaving, the poiiticians are making NJ into more and more of a commuter state where are residents work OUT of state instead of working in state and providing more tax revenue, not to mention that Corzine INCREASED the budget by over a BILLION dollars. They concern themselves with funding of stem cell research instead of working to make NJ a better place to live. I have nothing against stem cell research, I have a problem with the government funding it though. We give millions of dollars to sports teams that do not promote the state, but instead promote NY. Yet no one is outraged, there are no demonstrations that I know of going on in Trenton. There is a mass exidus of people though LEAVING the state however and voting with their feet. The only reason NJ is keeping it's population stable is because of immigrants. While the middle class tax base leaves the state, the less wealthy immigrant tax base moves in. NJ is anti-business and anti-middle class.

    On NJN they had people representing various municipalities addressing the legislature. One made a very good point. The retiries are having to sell their homes because they can't live under the tax burden, so the people who move in are young and have kids. This increases the need for more schools, etc, which then increases the need for more property taxes. We are losing the balance that makes a state vibrant.

    We need to stop building sprawl communities, where we need more roads, schools, etc. We need to be build and start revitalizing our cities (and not as bedroom communities either, but as economic powerhouses with their own corporations and businesses). The politicians seem to be blind though and only want to make as much money as they can on the backs of the New Jersey citizen. Our politicians are more concerned with paying millions out to the Giants, Jets and red Bulls, not to mention building that ridiculous rail tunnel into NY. We wouldn't need that if they worked on attracting businesses to NJ. Do you see all the building going on in Manhattan? That is all office space that will mostly house New JERSEY citizens! Those office buildings could be in New Jersey if our politicians got off their asses and actually did something!
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    Thumbs down Corzine taxes

    Hi lordmarc, So now there is a meter tax? I tell ya, Corzine sure is good at taxing things. He is a very poor manager, moves money around and spends . All this at tax payers expence. He really needs to be voted out. I think the republicans could do better. Hopefully he will not get reelected nor Menendez. We will see. How much longer until the voting is done? Is it November? Nothing much has been accomplished thus far with Corzine except to tax our state more, whatever he can come up with. Marianita

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    Corzine is in for another 3 years, unless some major scandal hits like McGreevey. But then of course we'll suffer through ANOTHER year with a "Acting" Governor and that would be again Richard Codey as of right now.
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    Default Taxes driving people out of Jersey

    Taxes driving people out of Jersey
    Star Ledger ^ | 07.30.06 | KARIN PRICE MUELLER


    Posted on 09/25/2006 9:37:25 PM PDT by Coleus


    Some see it as an exodus. Others call it a mass migration. But it's really a financial flight. In interviews with dozens of New Jersey residents, financial advisers and estate planning attorneys, one thing becomes apparent: People are being taxed out of New Jersey. "I've always felt there's a level of taxation where people say, 'Enough is enough,'" said Curtis Dubay, an economist with the Tax Foundation, a Washington, D.C., nonpartisan tax research group. "If any state has pushed the line, it's New Jersey."

    According to the foundation's 2006 State Business Tax Climate Index, New Jersey has the third highest tax load in the nation. For 2007, it's probably going to be worse, Dubay said. "I have little doubt that New Jersey will be the worst ranked state with regard to taxes," he said.

    There's no question people are leaving. And, they have been for some time. Internal Revenue Service data shows each of New Jersey's 21 counties suffered a net population loss in 2004, the most recent year data is available. In that year, nearly 100,000 households left the state, taking with them $1 billion in personal income. They're leaving for more tax-friendly states such as Florida, Nevada and Delaware, IRS data shows. Here are the stories of five families of different financial means who have either left, or might leave, New Jersey:

    THE COST OF LIVING

    Former Princeton residents Don and Dawna Gallo call Golden, Colo., their home. "We loved New Jersey and we had no intention of leaving," said Dan Gallo, 45. "We wanted to stay and retire in the state, but when we looked at the costs of remaining in New Jersey, leaving was economically the right thing to do." The Gallos say taxes -- of all kinds -- were a huge reason for their move.

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    Hi lordmarc, That article in the Star Ledger tells it like it is. How can people go on paying those high taxes? They would have to be rich. It is ridiculous. Ofcourse the state will lose out with all these people leaving. As you recall Corzine promised to lower the taxes which ofcourse he has not done. There will continue to be an exodus until something is done. The elderly suffer too and are forced to get apartments. It will be interesting to get an update from the IRS as regards a current exodus from New Jersey. It is a shame but people are forced to make the move. Marianita

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    Unhappy Corzine

    Hi Jersey Devil, We have 3 more years to put up with Corzine? That is a long time and alot can happen. So far he has not accomplished much and within 3 yrs more people will leave New Jersey because of the taxes. I wonder what he will find to tax next. He seems to be pretty good at it. Marianita

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    I am so sick of these outrageous taxes in New Jersey...the scary part is that less then intelligent people keep voting for criminals who increase our taxes even after making promises that they will not raise taxes. Corzine needs to go and Kean must beat Menendez to send a message that the people of New Jersey are intelligent folks and won't stand being lied to anymore.

    I am shocked an impeachment has not been sought against the Taxman.....like that of Florio....does anyone remember "Florio free in 93???"

    I am ready to sign the petition to impeach....just need others who share the same concerns about New Jersey to sign on.

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    Default re: KEAN MUST WIN

    Sorry everyone....I am from NJ(down the shore) but the original post calls me a tourist.

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    Default Corzine taxes

    Hi lynnou812, That is okay that you are down as tourist. I am posted as a New Jersian and I am not from there but wish I were. I actually go there every year as it is my second home. But my heart is there. My new grandson is a genuine New Jersey citizen though. He was born on Sept 22 at Virtual Memorial Hosp in Mount Holly. My son lives in Marlton. Corzine needs to be removed. It probably takes alot of signatures though. He should be in the ''Guiness book of records'' for having thought up the most things to tax. He even came up with the bright idea of people pumping their own gas and got thousands of emails so had to disregard that idea. lol. The taxes are ridiculous in New Jersey. I read of a mass exodus that took place in 2004. The IRS said that 10,000 people left NJ because off the taxes. I believe I read it in New Jersey Monthly. The IRS does not have a current update but can you imagine anything so awful? People leave and it takes money from the state. There is no reason for the taxes to be so high and Corzine also likes to spend money as he chooses. If Menendez gets elected it will only make the tax situation worse. I know that Corzine can be removed as it happened here to a governor we had several yrs ago. Corzine has a way of moving money around and spending and does not know what to do about the tax situation. He is not very popular but he is still in office and for a long time yet if nothing is done. Marianita

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    Just to let you know, in the FAQ it explains why some people have tourist and others say New Jerseyan, etc under their name... Why does it say "Tourist" under my name?
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    Default Thanks Jersey Devil

    I was geared up last night and did not read that part too carefully. I saw from your post you are in Toms River.....I am in Lacey Twp.....so we are neighbors. I am so glad to have found others that are none to pleased with Corzine.

    I will be out November 7th to vote for Kean....as well as everyone I know. We can only hope that the good people of this state do the same.

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