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    Talking The democrat jole has a hallowed ring to it........

    The joke is cute, but I have also heard it a different way, but it is all the same With all the information that is out about Corizine and all that he has done, it stands to reason he should be impeached. Don't forget when voting a new REPUBLICAN governor, though I am sure by minipulation and counting on the fact that people forget, Corizine will go to extended lenghts to paint a picture of his excellent governorship (ilovenj is most likely nodding his head and chanting YES! YES! YES! but he is hoplessly a drone to Corizine ) hoping the public will forget his costly fiasco's to the NJ residents. BUT MAKE IT A POINT NOT TO FORGET!!! DON'T FORGET TO VOTE OUT ALL THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE AND LEGISLATURE WHO ASSISTED CORIZINE ON HIS COSTLY VENURE!!! NJ residents can get the message across by their powerful vote and not allowed themselves to be swayed by fancy speeches, false promises, and the hope that most residents will forget that Corizine turned off the state and cost millions of dollars, some people their jobs, and padded the bank accounts for all political cronies.

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    Corzine: Ban dual pensions
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    Democratic gubernatorial candidate U.S. Sen. Jon S. Corzine said public officials should be banned from collecting large state pensions simply because they worked several part-time jobs.

    "Senator Corzine believes the state pension system has been abused, and taxpayers can't afford it anymore," spokeswoman Ivette Mendez said. "He says it's time to stop this pension-padding and double-dipping."

    Corzine's comments came after Republican gubernatorial hopefuls this week called for changes to the state pension system. Several candidates, including businessman Todd Caliguire, Assemblyman Paul DiGaetano, and Morris County Freeholder John Murphy, called for an end to the practice of tacking, or using part-time jobs to enhance pensions.

    The tacking practice, other pension abuses and billions of dollars in pension fund losses, were outlined in a series in the Asbury Park Press and six other Gannett New Jersey newspapers titled, "New Jersey's Pension Peril: How it will Cost you Billions."

    GOP gubernatorial candidate and former Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler called for converting the pension system to 401(k)-type accounts.

    The state's pensions became an issue this year after Acting Gov. Codey said the government was billions of dollars in debt mostly because of rising healthcare and pension-benefit costs.

    There were an estimated 9,500 public employees in New Jersey holding two or more jobs in 2002, according to a Gannett New Jersey review of employment data. The multiple job holders, or tackers, took home a collective $238 million in pay.

    A 2004 state Treasury department audit report found that employees who boosted their final pensions by adding part-time jobs cost the state at least $6.5 million more a year in retirement benefits.



    If tacking were banned, it would affect officials like Assemblyman Robert J. Smith II, D-Gloucester, who has cobbled together six part-time jobs as a municipal prosecutor. He will be paid a total of $133,592 this year in public salaries and stands to collect a $60,000 annual pension even if he works only one part-time job for the next 10 years.

    Mendez said Corzine also believes the state needs to add more money to the pension system. The system has not been fully funded since 1991, and the state still owes $5.5 billion in contributions.

    "Both (political) parties have shirked away from putting adequate money into the pension system as we go," Mendez said. "It's dishonest — to workers and to taxpayers — when pension obligations aren't funded. The state needs a big dose of honesty about our pension system."

    Codey, also a Democrat, did not respond to a request for comment. State Treasurer John E. McCormac has been pressing to diversify the pension's multi-billion dollar portfolio by investing part of it in hedge funds and real estate. Diversification may come with higher risk but also could provide a much higher return on the state's money, McCormac said. Most of the fund is invested in stocks and bonds.

    State Assembly speaker Albio Sires said in a statement that he was awaiting the results of a commission formed by Codey to study the matter.

    David P. Rebovich, a political science professor at Rider University, said politicians are loath to address pension costs.

    "Democrats especially, and some Republicans, count heavily on support from teachers, county and municipal workers," Rebovich said. "They want to avoid the issue. With property taxes cited as the top issue by a majority of New Jerseyans, they still want to avoid that. So they have little incentive to touch this."

    There are more than 500,000 active members in the state's various pension systems and more than 200,000 retirees. The funds have $70.5 billion in assets and pay out about $4 billion a year in benefits.

    Most state and local employees have to contribution about 5 percent of their salaries to the pension system. Judges contribute about 3 percent, and contributions from law enforcement officers range from 7.5 percent to 8.5 percent.

    The state will make a $195 million contribution to the pension system this fiscal year, far short of the $1.4 billion it owes.

    Rebovich said his most optimistic hope is that the state budget crisis and pension costs become a part of the gubernatorial and Assembly campaigns this year to signal that candidates "recognize this is an important issue" and it "stays on the public agenda."

    State Sen. Leonard T. Connors Jr., R-Ocean, said he believes retirement plans for future state hires should be made to self-directed 401(k)-type accounts "until we get this back on track." 401(k) plans are mostly funded through employee contributions and do not offer healthcare benefits at retirement.

    Connors said he also favors using a 10-year average of the highest pay on which to base an income, instead of the current three-year average. He also said he would not be opposed to prohibiting tacking.

    State Senate Minority Leader Leonard Lance, R-Hunterdon, said he would support legislation that would increase the minimum salary necessary to qualify for a state pension from $1,500 to a "significantly higher figure."

    He said he purposely paid two of his own aides a salary of $1,400 each so they wouldn't accrue credits in the pension system.

    Assemblyman Peter J. Biondi, R-Somerset, said his "simple" solution to pension boosting would be to "Eliminate the availability of a state pension to part-timers."

    Biondi, vice chairman of the Joint Legislative Committee on Ethical Standards, also suggested that state pension tackers be allowed to choose only one full-time job to contribute to their pensions.

    "I think we can't afford to do this on the backs of taxpayers any longer," Biondi said.

    Other lawmakers echoed similar thoughts.

    State Sen. Barbara Buono, D-Middlesex, said she does expects opposition to changing the system.

    "There're always stakeholders who feel they are at risk of losing something which is held near and dear to them," she said. "Simply because you anticipate there's going to be opposition doesn't mean you pull back from a policy position that you feel has merit to it."

    Buono said the time is ripe for reform.

    "The public cynicism is at such a boiling point. We really need to re-evaluate the way the entire pension and retirement system works for elected officials, it's really been abused," she said.

    William G. Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League of Municipalities, said pension and benefits costs for local police, firefighters and municipal workers is helping to keep property taxes among the highest in the nation.

    "In many cases, it's too late (for reform)," Dressel said. "The police and fire system is one of the richest that exist in the nation. The teachers system is one of the most generous. It's indicative of the powerful interest groups they represent."

    Municipalities must pay a contribution for municipal workers, which affects property taxes, while more state money contributed to teacher pensions means less is available for property tax relief, Dressel said.

    Lynn Maher, spokeswoman for the state's teachers union, the New Jersey Education Association, said the problems with the teachers' pension are caused by the state not fully contributing to the fund.

    "The state needs to make its contribution," Maher said. "It committed to doing that, and it's the only fair and decent thing to do."

    Contributing: Gannett New Jersey staff writer Peter N. Spencer and Home News Tribune staff writer Ken Tarbous

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    Smile Corzine,The Tax Man Video

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    I cant understand why you people cry, especally lordmarc. New Jerey is a state that was in trouble and Corzine had to do something. He is fixing our problems so we the people can enjoy our lives in the greatest, I said greatest state in the country. If you cant afford to live here, THEN GET OUT, I SAID TO GET OUT!!!. Governer Corzine allready made his mark in life and decided to be our Governer. He made the big decisions to save New Jersy. I , as a New Jerset resident speak for all of New Jersey, We stand behind Governer Corzine and we will do our part in saving New Jersey from bankrupsy. Thank you Governer Corzine for making a difference and caring for the people of New Jersey. You are the best, I said you are the best!!!
    Remember in November to vote Democrat. Lets finish the job and get rid of the trouble making Republicans.

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    People are not CRYING, they are voicing their displeasure regarding a Governor who pitches temper tantrums and turns off the state to get his way for a 1% tax hike, NOW... this tax hike is going to fund the multiple pensions that many fat cats receive so they can continue to live high on the hog thanks to the tax paying drones like voiceofnj & ilovenj!!! NJ has been made a joke thanks to Corizine and have caused countless good people to move from NJ because of their greed. And, Corizine never fixed anything, he has continued with the same practices as all the DEMOCRATS before him, bleed the great citizens of NJ dry until they have nothing left. Lordmarc has provided factual information and has shared very good insight on the problems with Corizine and the Democrats, it seems to me, and to most who have written their opinions, that most agree with Lordmarc, and most are not crying, the only 2 people who have been critical and antagonistic on this messageboard have been ilovenj and voiceofnj, who are both pro Corizine and have the mentality of drones, technically they are kissing Corizine's ass and wish for us to do the same, but... they need to grow up.... Lordmarc provided facts, indisputable facts, but.. voiceofnj & ilovenj, they just spouted off.. akin to junionr high little boys, with nothing to back up their claims!!! I support Lordmarc, and I will not vote Democratic, the past 30 years plus the Democrats have destroyed NJ with their fat cat life style, greed, and nepatism. BRAVO, Lordmarc, you and all the others who have politely shared your views (with the exception of voiceofnj & ilovenj) I support you!!!!

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    I have to respond to this post. This is just too funny to pass up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of New Jersey
    New Jerey is a state that was in trouble and Corzine had to do something.
    let's see - and WHO got NJ into the mess? besides NJ constantly electing incompetent governors - such as Florio and need I mention McGreevey - who is repsonsible for the spending of OUR tax money?

    He is fixing our problems so we the people can enjoy our lives in the greatest, I said greatest state in the country.
    I agree it's the greatest state in the country, but it sure as hel isn't the greatest state because of our inept government. If you disagree and think that the NJ government is so great - then why is NJ LOSING both population and businesses? Our politicians are destroying this state.
    If you cant afford to live here, THEN GET OUT, I SAID TO GET OUT!!!.
    It has nothing to do with affording to live in the state or not. It has to do with how the NJ state government SQUANDERS the hard earned money of the citizens of New Jersey and then when they need more - they just dig deeper into our pockets. We can go through a whole list of problems in NJ - such as our roads full of potholes, bridges in disrepair, maybe you have seen many of the road signs that are so faded you can't even read them, our historic sites which are closed, etc.
    Governer Corzine allready made his mark in life and decided to be our Governer. He made the big decisions to save New Jersy. I , as a New Jerset resident speak for all of New Jersey, We stand behind Governer Corzine and we will do our part in saving New Jersey from bankrupsy.
    Now this is where I thought was the most laughable statement of all. Please sit down while I explain this to you - YOU are ONE citizen - you do NOT speak for all of NJ. I am a New Jerseyan and I know for damn sure by your statements that you do NOT speak for me. Corzine didn't save NJ from bankrupcy, he merely passed this years budget (all that is required for a balanced budget is that the expendatures equal the income). I'd like to know what big decisions he made to save NJ, besides the usual tax and SPEND? He supports the Hudson rail tunnel which just pushes more of our money toward NY. He supported the Giants, Jets and the Red Bull deals - all NJ teams which refuse to acknowledge - as you say - the great state of NJ as their home state, yet He GAVE them millions and millions of dollars. Why do we continue to foot the bill for these ungrateful teams? Killing the Jets deal - would have saved the state over 100 million dollars (the state of NJ is BUYING them their practice field for them), killing the red Bulls arena - would have saved us $85 million, killing the Giants deal period - would have saved us hundreds of millions of dollars - especially if we didn't FORGVE them their debt they carried with the state. Our politicians don't represent NJ - they represent NY and their cronies and special interest groups.
    Thank you Governer Corzine for making a difference and caring for the people of New Jersey. You are the best, I said you are the best!!!
    Remember in November to vote Democrat. Lets finish the job and get rid of the trouble making Republicans.
    Now - I must say that your whole diatribe must all be satire. Surely you can't be serious here. When the hell will NJ learn that the democrats are the ones that keep digging deeper into our pockets? When will NJ wake up and see thet NJ - with supposed representatives in US Congress (Corzine having been one) gives the MOST to th federal government - but gets the least in return? It's time for a change in government - we should be fighting for smaller government, we should be demanding that our politicians work at attracting businesses and jobs to NJ - instead of bowing to NY and sending all the jobs over there and causing NJ to be merely a commuter state. Enough is enough.

    As I said - YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME! Out with Corzine and OUT with the democratic legislators in November (too bad we have to wait 4 years for Corzine to get kicked out). Sadly - knowing New Jerseyans - Crozine will be back just like the flu is every year. New Jersey has a serious problem and it's time to clean house.
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    Default AMEN, JerseyDevil - you speak for me!!!!!!!

    You don't speak for me either, as you will find out, voice of NJ, no one agrees with your infantile ramblings, democrats have caused the state of NJ millions of dollars, and have hurt NJ, in no way have they helped NJ. A change of parties is what needed to promote NJ to prosper.

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    Default Another Voice of New Jersey

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    NEW JERSEY STANDARD OF LIVING:
    New Jersey has the highest auto insurance rates in the nation.
    New Jersey has the highest property taxes in the nation.
    New Jersey has the highest cigarette tax in the nation.
    New Jersey has the second highest statewide housing costs in the nation: 73% above the national average!
    New Jersey has the third highest cost of doing business in the nation.
    New Jersey has the fourth highest health insurance costs in the nation.
    New Jersey has the fifth highest amount of tax-supported debt in the nation.
    New Jersey's overall cost of living is 32% above the national average. Why pay such a premium to live in New Jersey when you could live in a place that is both nice and has a reasonable cost of living?
    New Jersey collects income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, sin taxes, casino taxes, tourism taxes, and highway tolls, yet the state has massive budget problems. Where the hell is all of that money going? At least I know where it is coming from: your pockets!
    New Jersey ranks first in the nation in per-pupil spending, but its students' only achieve average reading and math scores.
    New Jersey is the most densely populated and overcrowded state in the nation. Hope you like standing in long lines and sitting in traffic jams.
    The Jersey shore (don't say beaches) is vastly overrated. First, you have to fight your way through traffic jams and toll booths. Next, you have to pay for parking. Then you have to pay for beach tags to use a public beach! Finally, the ocean will be murky, freezing cold, or filled with jellyfish.
    Atlantic City will always be a cut-rate resort compared to Las Vegas.
    NEW JERSEY TRANSPORTATION:
    New Jersey drivers were ranked the 3rd worst in the nation by Overdrive, a truckers' magazine. How damning of an indictment can you get?
    New Jersey drivers were ranked the 3rd dumbest in the nation by the GMAC Insurance National Driver's Test--a test that measures basic knowledge about traffic laws and safety.
    If the New Jersey DMV will give drivers' licenses to terrorists, it is not surprising that they will also give licenses to people who are behind-the-wheel terrorists.
    You have to pay outrageous tolls to ride on many of New Jersey's highways, all of which were built at least 40 years ago. How many friggin times do these roads need to be paid for?
    Whenever it snows, don't expect the roads to be clear again until the snow melts.
    New Jersey is the only state that was stupid enough to lose $469 million dollars on a toll collection system! To pay for that mess, New Jersey now charges $1 a month for the "privilege" of using its E-ZPass. Send it back now and get a new E-ZPass with no monthly fee from DRBA.
    New Jersey's roads were not designed by qualified transportation engineers, but by retards. Consider the following:
    There are many places on New Jersey highways where you can exit, but not get back on.
    There are many places on New Jersey highways where you can exit to go north on a road, but not south on that same road (or vice versa).
    There are many places on New Jersey highways where you can exit to go east on a road, but not west on that same road (or vice versa).
    There are many places on New Jersey highways where lanes just end without any warning.
    To make a left turn, you either have to use a jughandle or make a right at the next street and go around the whole damn block.
    It is more important to have a useless grass median than a left turn lane.
    When navigating a traffic circle, there seems to be only one rule: there are no rules!
    NEW JERSEY LAWS/CRIME:
    New Jersey has the most dangerous city in America: Camden, NJ.
    New Jersey's answer to its high crime rates is stricter regulations, not stricter punishments.
    New Jersey cops need to concentrate less on speeding ticket quotas and more on the high crime rates.
    New Jersey has now banned the use of handheld cell phones while driving. However, reckless driving without a cell phone will never be discouraged.
    New Jersey has strict gun ownership laws. Not surprisingly, most of the guns are owned and used by criminals.
    You are not allowed to pump your own gas because New Jersey's government deems a gas pump to be too dangerous for its citizens to operate. However, it takes three times as long for a "trained" minimum-wage attendant to pump your gas than if you had pumped it yourself.
    You are also considered a criminal if you set off a firecracker (even a sparkler!) or throw a soda can in the wrong trash bin.
    You can't buy beer in a convenience store, yet New Jersey does nothing about its residents who drive even worse than drunk drivers!
    NEW JERSEY POLITICS:
    Every year, New Jersey's stupid voters keep electing the same crooked, tax-and-spend politicians to that big incestuous bed of state government corruption.
    New Jersey owns the distinction of having the first gay governor, Jim McGreasy. But unfortunately, New Jersey also owns the distinction of having the first corrupt gay governor. And need I remind everyone that the stupid New Jersey voters elected this sleazebag in a 15-point landslide?
    New Jersey residents receive less federal funding per dollar of federal taxes paid than any other state. So not only are New Jersey's politicians crooked, but they are also ineffective.
    The New Jersey Supreme Court is the most activist state court in the nation (well, maybe after Massachusetts!) For example, the court allowed Frank Lautenberg to replace Robert Torricelli as a senate nominee in 2002, even though state law clearly says that a party can replace a statewide nominee on the ballot only if the person drops out at least 51 days before the election. (Now the next time I have jury duty, I guess I can totally ignore the law and rule however I wish.)
    Of course, New Jersey further embarrasses itself when its stupid voters play right along and elect that old fossil Lautenberg to replace bribetaking Senator Torricelli.
    NEW JERSEY ENVIRONMENT:
    New Jersey has the most toxic waste sites in the nation.
    New Jersey has the second worst air quality in the nation.
    New Jersey is "The Garden State" all right--complete with mosquitoes, gnats, fleas, ticks, biting flies, and chiggers.
    New Jersey is a dreary state that sorely lacks natural beauty, that is, unless you have a thing for pine trees, garbage dumps, sound walls, or urban sprawl.
    NEW JERSEY APOLOGISTS:
    When asked why they like New Jersey, many New Jersey apologists will answer, "I like the change of seasons." NEWS FLASH: Almost all of the states experience a change of seasons, you morons!
    New Jersey apologists like to boast of their close proximity to many cultural and recreational opportunities. NEWS FLASH: Location is hardly a benefit that is exclusive to New Jersey residents. There are many other places in this country with plenty of things to do. Leave the New Jersey cocoon periodically and see for yourself.
    New Jersey apologists like to say, "Don't knock New Jersey until you've lived here." Well, I guess that would make it even easier!
    New Jersey apologists like to say, "If you don't like New Jersey, then leave." Well, if such people like me are leaving New Jersey, then why are things getting worse?
    New Jersey apologists like to boast that New Jersey is the home state of Bruce Springsteen and Jon Bon Jovi. However, these two has-beens are so washed up that they couldn't even rock the vote!

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    Default We Do Have the Most Dangerous City in America

    Its time For Furor Corzine to tax the criminals, then again, its asking him to tax his own Assembly with the Multiple Pensions. I really feel good paying more so he can continue the Multiple Pension Payouts.

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    Camden, N.J., named most-dangerous city
    Detroit relinquishes title just days after NBA melee
    TRENTON, N.J. - Camden has been named the nation’s most-dangerous city, snatching the top spot from Detroit, according to a company’s annual ranking based on crime statistics.

    Officials in Camden, which was ranked third last year, downplayed the dubious designation Sunday, saying many steps have already been taken to reduce crime in the city.

    “We must give our people jobs, training and opportunity,” said City Councilman Ali Sloan-El, ( Who gets a multiple pension) who pointed out that Camden’s poverty is an important contributing factor to its high crime rate.
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    lordmarc - i do disagree with a lot of your listings. I agree about corzine and stuff - but I have been to forty states and lived in 6 of them and NJ is by far the best in terms of things to do and beaches.

    there are so many stereotypical things in that list - it's not even funny. Look at pollution - where is NJ located? It's EAST - east of Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Indiana and Kentucky - the states that have the most coal plants. Now where does their pollution go? Does it stay over those states? hell no - it follows the frigging jet stream - right into NJ. 1/3 of NJ's pollution is cuased by out of state and a 1/3 of car pollution is from out of state drivers. NJ has the toughest water standards in the country - California - it's swim as your own risk. Another - take auto insurance - yeah - NJ has the highest, but if you look at EASTERN/SOUTHERN NY state - they're insurance is only a couple of dollars cheaper - as is massachuesetts. The whole northeast has high auto insurance rates - it comes with having 25% of the US population linving here with high traffic volumes. The only reason PA and NY are cheaper is because they are big states with a lot of uninhabited areas in their western sections.

    You have to look further than just the mere numbers. It's great saying that NJ has the "most" toxic waste sites in the country. Several years ago I was interested in studying this "fact" a little deeper, and while we may have the most - ours were actually SMALLER insize and had less pollution than most other states.

    That list is most a bunch of stereootypical nonsense. BTW - the one thing that really pisses me off about this list is the comment about the lack of natural beauty. It had to obviously be complied by a New Yorker. I like how it ony mentions the pine barrens - which are quite beautiful, but then there is also the Delaware Water gap, the mountains of the northwest and the scenic and PROTECTED beauty of the Jersey Shore.

    Hopefully this will be my finally edit and addition here - but concerning beach tags - do you realize that most beaches in other states are NOT life guard protected? That they do NOT clean them? And who do you expect to have pay for the upkeep of the NJ beaches? soley NJ taxpayers - or the millions of out of staters - mostly made up of New Yorkers and Pennsylvanians - many of who leave their trash on the beach? Well personally - I think the people who use the beach should pay for the upkeep. I would institute a three teir price level though - people sho live in the community - get the beach for free, New Jerseyan pay a certain amount and then non-New Jerseyans pay ful cost.
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    I did not write that, I posted the weblink. I'm just angry because thanks to Corzine, N.J. is no longer a long term answer for living here. I know I'm right because I do Refinances for a living and I know for a fact that at least 75% people's salaries ( Usually 2 incomes) goes to repay their loan and taxes. Corzine only made it harder and Corzine offers nothing, ( for the voice of NJ) I SAID NOTHING!! for his increases. How does quality of life go up in N.J., thanks to Corzine? If Corzine wants to help, he would resign and go tax corn growers in Nebraska. I'm sure soon he will tax people who have a fire hydrant on their street. Why not a gravity tax? We are all using N.J. gravity and he should tax it. If their was a way he could turn it off like a utility, he would of enforced one by now. Well at least we have the comfort knowing Multiple Pensions will continue to be paid out.

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    Lordmarc - I know you didn't write it. I'm just saying that a lot of it is just stereotypical nonsense in there. I want to make that clear to people since this is a tourism website, although really the political discussions are what gets people going. I seriously do hope that you do not believe all the things written in there either.

    I moved back to NJ because of my love for the state. Me starting up this website and trying to develop this into a viabl business - was because of my love for NJ. Believe me though - after being back here and able to see the politics - I do NOT love the NJ government. It has to change - but that will only take New Jerseyans who are fed up enough to make LASTING change. As I said - I feel too many New Jerseyans vote on feel good national issues - and not on what will make NJ a better state. I know I sound like a broken record with this - but it is a valid example - I am completely shocked that so many New Jerseyans don't care that we have teams who do not acknowledge our state as their home. If it was any other state - there would be huge outcries. But then again - all the states I have been to have something NJ sorely lacks - and that is a sense of self pride. This carries over to the government. No one cares that politicians support things that benefit NY more than NJ (and to a lesser extent Philadelphia over NJ). As I said - instead of building up our cities, and attracting businesses, our politicians are too busy planning on how to get the Hudson tunnel built so NY can get the businesses and build up their tax base. We have to start expecting our politicians to fight for us. We have to start saying that NJ is #1. People have to stop voting for people based on national moods.
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    Smile Democrat Jokes

    How do you stop a Democrat from robbing your house?
    put up a help-wanted sign.

    Why do Democrats re-fry their beans?
    Have you seen a Democrat do anything right the first time?

    Why are Democrats so short?
    When they're young, their parents say, "When you get bigger you have to get a good job."


    How many Democrats does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    Doesn't matter, they're to short to reach the socket.

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    Lordmarc - I do like your jokes - although I should be impartial here. Everyone has their political leanings and I seriously don't think the democrats are good at all for the state of NJ or for the country for that matter. I had initially felt I would try to stay out of the political discussions, but I am way too much of a political/news junkie for that.
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    Default N.J. Multiple Pensions

    In November, I will vote 100% Republican. Al N.J. Democrats do is raise taxes and endorse multiple pensions. How does N.J. win with Corzine? He raised my taxes, but my quality of life has not increased. I have to switch to Vonage to save money, boycott all union stores so I can save money at Wal-Marts. the Democrats held NJ hostage until Corzine's multipension tax increases came in effect. If Corzine wants to help N.J., he would resign as Governor and leave. He lied to obtain the position. He could of easily fixed NJ problems. STOP PAYING MULTIPLE PENSIONS!!!!!!

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    Default Question?

    How do you delete duplicate posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordmarc
    How do you delete duplicate posts?
    I or an admin has to delete them. Which I will do for you. Don't worry about the double post.
    New Jersey is the only state honored by two resorts at Walt Disney World. The Beach Club Resort, modeled after Historic Cape May and The Boardwalk Resort, after Atlantic City. If the Jersey Shore is good enough for Walt Disney to recreate, isn't the REAL Jersey Shore even better for you and your family?

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    Default Corzine Pension Plan

    He never talks about cutting the MULTIPLE PENSIONS OF THE N.J. ASSEMBLY. He wants to attack just the basic State Workers

    http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...608020432/1001

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    Angry Adolf Corzine's local tax plan

    How much is Pennsylvania paying Corzine to have people move out of N.J.? Corzine is nothing but a terrorist against the people of N.J.


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