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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
    That's funny since the democrats have been consistently winning for a while now, and New Jersey is getting worse financially. You act as if the democrats aren't and haven't been the ones in power for years. As if the financial crisis was caused by some other force.

    BTW - if the unions are so willing to give concessions - then why are they the first to send thousands to Trenton to picket??? Teachers Union anyone????
    How is N.J. getting worse financially? N.J. is one of the most wealthiest states in the country. Why? Democrats. The Unions only picket for attention. They want to show N.J. how they can unite for a fictional pension cut. They will prove my point when they do the smart thing and vote Democrat. Wait and see. The Democrats will win and in result N.J. wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    How is N.J. getting worse financially? N.J. is one of the most wealthiest states in the country.
    The PEOPLE of New Jersey are the wealthiest in the country, while our government has a 2 billion dollar deficit and basically bankrupt. There is a difference.
    Why? Democrats.
    Exactly - our state government is nearly bankrupt because of the democrats.
    The Unions only picket for attention. They want to show N.J. how they can unite for a fictional pension cut. They will prove my point when they do the smart thing and vote Democrat. Wait and see. The Democrats will win and in result N.J. wins
    The unions don't want to give up any of their inflated benefits. They don't want to contribute to their own health care, like most employees have to. They would rather see the state go into bankruptcy than make any concessions. NJ is losing with the democrats in power. All you have to do is just look at the recent audit that was done in Newark and the problems that Sharpe James left. He's even under federal investigation but he's still in the state house. Then of course there was wonderful Torricellii. He was under investigation and the democrats switched him with Lautenburg. It's really unbelieveable how you can defend the democrats with a straight face.
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    Default ?????????

    Are you trying to blame the Democrats for the little problems in N.J.
    If their is a problem, the Democrats are the cure.
    N.J. is a very rich state , just look around. Your statements are irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    Are you trying to blame the Democrats for the little problems in N.J.
    If their is a problem, the Democrats are the cure.
    N.J. is a very rich state , just look around. Your statements are irrelevant.
    I think the blame for the problems lie with all of the politicians (Democrats, Republicans and any others) and indirectly by the public for not voting ineffective leaders out of office.

    I think that there is a problem with this state. One could look at their neighbors and see who is moving to other states because of the high cost of living (due primarily to the many different types of taxes) in NJ.

    I know of several friends/neighbors who are in the process of moving out of state for a more affordable cost of living. If they had their way, they would prefer to remain in NJ and stay near friends and family.

    Democrats (and Republicans) are only part of the cure for NJ's problems if they make the choices necessary that will

    • Reform how education is funding
    • Reform how the state spends for programs
    • Causes the state to operate in a fiscally responsible manner
    • Reform the burden of property taxes (In some cases property taxes can be as high as 50-60% of some peoples incomes, granted this is probably more common with retired citizens)


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    Default N.J. needs a monument

    We in N.J. should build a Mount Rushmore type Monument to salute N.J. best Governors. I think it should contain Byrne, Florio, McGreevy and of course Mr. Corzine. It should be built with union labor and funded by the proud people of N.J..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    We in N.J. should build a Mount Rushmore type Monument to salute N.J. best Governors. I think it should contain Byrne, Florio, McGreevy and of course Mr. Corzine. It should be built with union labor and funded by the proud people of N.J..
    I would appreciate an answer to my question.

    In case you forgot:
    ilovenj,

    Please explain why you think those statements are irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    Are you trying to blame the Democrats for the little problems in N.J.
    If their is a problem, the Democrats are the cure.
    N.J. is a very rich state , just look around. Your statements are irrelevant.
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    Now we find out Corzine is looking into the hospital bed tax again. His democratic goons in N.J. are also looking into what taxes they can raise now. This so-called property tax relief is nothing but a joke. They will not get the money through the property taxes but they will bend us over and take it from us another way. These people MUST go in November for the good of the state. I wonder how many more people will leave N.J. this year because of the democrats and their taxes. NEW JERSEYS AXIS OF EVIL, Corzine, Cody and Roberts. I wonder how many other states have an Axis of Evil.
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    Default Corzine tax plan

    Mr.Corzine has raised the sales tax by a penny. Half of that will go to property tax relief. Mr. Corzine has agreed to that and he is a man of his word. Case closed.

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    Default Why your Statements are irrelevant

    Your Statements are irrelevant because the Democrats run N.J. With the Democrats in charge, N.J. is in great hands. I have made my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    Mr.Corzine has raised the sales tax by a penny. Half of that will go to property tax relief. Mr. Corzine has agreed to that and he is a man of his word. Case closed.
    That is where you are wrong. Taxes didn't just go up a penny when you include all the things that used to be tax exempt that we now have to pay taxes on. The Star Ledger estimated that the sales tax went up to about 16%. Some previously untaxed items were such things as magazines and fitness dues. There is a long list of items. Now he wants to revisit taxing hospital beds.

    I can tell form your statements that you have never debated anyone. You think that just because you say something that everyone should just accept without you supplying any facts. What is funny though - is when you try supplying facts they're so exaggerated that they're basically lies.

    BTW - your comment on McGreevy is just hilarious. He was one of the WORST governors. Not because of his homosexual affair either - but for putting his "lover" into a top position that he was not qualified for - namely NJ's Homeland Security. Then right at the beginning of his term he tried to make the citizens of NJ pay for his family reunion in Ireland which included a $500 a night hotel. In addition he would take the state helicopter to go to family weddings which we had to again pick up the tab on. McGreevey was a joke.
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    Default Corzine tax on hospital beds

    If Mr. Corzine puts a tax on hospital beds, then its a good idea. You must remember, N.J. is a union state and the unions have spoken. The unions want Mr. Corzine and trust him to do the right thing. If people have pay a penny tax on hospital beds, then its a good thing. Unions want this, understand and remember to vote Democrat in November. McGreevy rocked, why? Unions voted him in and that makes him a good Governer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    If Mr. Corzine puts a tax on hospital beds, then its a good idea. You must remember, N.J. is a union state and the unions have spoken. The unions want Mr. Corzine and trust him to do the right thing. If people have pay a penny tax on hospital beds, then its a good thing. Unions want this, understand and remember to vote Democrat in November. McGreevy rocked, why? Unions voted him in and that makes him a good Governer.
    I'm glad you layout so nicely what is one of the problems with NJ. Contrary to your statements though, the governor nor the GOVERNMENT of New Jersey is supposed to be representing the interests of the unions, they are supposed to be representing the PEOPLE of New Jersey, that is ALL the people of NJ. The unions are another problem with NJ, they are the equivalent of the mafia back in the early 1900's.

    As for you statement that people will have to pay a "penny tax on hopital beds", that again shows your ignorance. Hospital beds were previously exempt from tax, which means that they are an item that may see a 7% increase in cost. You might want to do some reading and research before spewing out nonsense and inaccurate information.
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    Default IF what you say is true about unions?

    Then why dont the people get off their asses and vote? Because they trust the unions to make the decisions for them. Its the right decision. Wait and see when the Democrats win in November, thanks to unions, who excercise their rights to vote. If the people in N.J. refuse to vote, then they need to stop crying, pay their taxes and let the Democrats do what they have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    Then why dont the people get off their asses and vote? Because they trust the unions to make the decisions for them. Its the right decision. Wait and see when the Democrats win in November, thanks to unions, who excercise their rights to vote. If the people in N.J. refuse to vote, then they need to stop crying, pay their taxes and let the Democrats do what they have to do.
    The problem is that people are voting - they're voting with their feet. They're packing up their stuff and moving out of state.
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    Default N.J. is a fruitful state.

    Why is the Traffic so busy? Why is the tollbooths forever having cars go thru them? Why are the malls packed with paying customers? Because N.J. is a fruitful state. Thanks to our great, I said great Democrats.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    Why is the Traffic so busy? Why is the tollbooths forever having cars go thru them? Why are the malls packed with paying customers? Because N.J. is a fruitful state. Thanks to our great, I said great Democrats.
    Our politicians have created NJ into a commuter state. Our cities have floundered and are only now coming back - not with the help from Trenton though. You want to know why our tollbooths are full? Because NJ is the main street between New York and Philadelphia and our politicians continue to shortchange NJ and make it even more so. Instead of developing our cities into powerhouses of their own, they're exporting our jobs to NY and Philadelphia and subsidizing those cities. We wouldn't need a second Hudson Rail Tunnel for commuters going to Manhattan if our politicians got off their asses and worked to encourage businesses to move back into Newark, Jersey City, Camden and the other great cities of NJ.

    NJ is a great state - but the government and politicians are basically worthless and have been for centuries.
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    Default NJ Tax Reform Nothing But Democrats Smoke & Mirrors

    Just for the record, this 20 percent property tax rebate idea thatís been all the rage lately is another joke, no matter what happens to it.
    The average New Jersey homeowner pays some $6,000 in property taxes. There are some 1.9 million households that would benefit from the property tax cut. Do the math, and youíre looking at $2.2 billion or nearly 10 percent of the entire state budget going back into our pockets.

    Last I checked, weíre one of only two states operating at a deficit. Which means this property tax rebate plan is similar in scope to paying off your Visa bill with a MasterCard. And if thatís not brilliant enough for you, donít worry it gets worse. The new hot idea in the legislature is to start selling or leasing our toll roads and lotteries. Basically, the state would get a lump sum up front for the rights to these moneymakers.

    Now if our lawmakers were going to be smart with the money and pardon me while I spend the next 20 minutes in a full state of guffaw, Iíd say itís a good idea. It would be like if your dear Uncle Bob left you a million bucks. You could be conservative with it (like the state should be) and put it in a safe investment, pulling out maybe $50,000 a year without touching the principal.

    But you just know the legislature will not be smart with the money, and theyíll blow through it in a couple of years, which would be the equivalent of taking Uncle Bobís inheritance and deciding to hang out with girls named "Bunni" who encourage you to not only snort cocaine, but to do so off their stomachs.

    Anywho, all this talk about property tax relief, no matter what happens, is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Bottom line, weíre paying a fortune in taxes, and will continue to do so. The average New Jerseyan, homeowner or not, pays $5,234 a year in state and local taxes, according to taxfoundation.org. On top of that, we pay seven percent sales tax, the second highest in the nation. The average New Jerseyan ponies up some $841 yearly right there.

    Whatís even more annoying is that seven percent of the sales tax goes right back to us in property tax rebates. In other words, the state is robbing Peter to pay, well, Peter. And if youíre a pack-a-day smoker, well, you should quit, if only because youíre paying $942 a year in taxes to the state. We get a break at the pump, where the 14.5 cent per gallon tax rate is the fourth lowest in the nation. So if you burn through 40 gallons a week, figure on $300 in taxes there. And then thereís are the little annoying taxes, like on booze, on your phone and cable, and on countless other things. Of course, weíre leaving out federal taxes in all this.

    So where does this leave us? Two places: One is a little home ruled locale called "Aggravated," and two, circling May 6 on the calendar. Thatís the day, according to The Tax Foundation, that the average New Jerseyan, you and I, will have earned enough money to pay off every last cent of our total tax bill. Thatís 126 days, or 34 percent of the year.

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    Default Mr.Corzine Rocks!!!!!

    N.J. pays taxes, so does the rest of the country. We pay taxes so our state functions. It makes sense to the unions, it makes sense to Democrats, that means it makes sense to me and it should to you. The unions are the backbone of America and in N.J. support Democrats. If the Democrats raise our taxes, the unions will pay them. If the unions need to cut benefits and pensions, then the unions fully understand. We all want N.J. to function. The unions do their part, so do yours, Vote Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovenj
    N.J. pays taxes, so does the rest of the country. We pay taxes so our state functions. It makes sense to the unions, it makes sense to Democrats, that means it makes sense to me and it should to you. The unions are the backbone of America and in N.J. support Democrats. If the Democrats raise our taxes, the unions will pay them. If the unions need to cut benefits and pensions, then the unions fully understand. We all want N.J. to function. The unions do their part, so do yours, Vote Democrat.
    yaaaaawwwnnnn. Broken Record.

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    Default Rutgers = Democrats

    A Vote for Rutgers is a vote for Democrats.
    PROOF: Democrats have taken good care of Rutgers. The teachers unions are strong, Thanks to Democrats. I hope you remember that in November.

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