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JerseyDevil
11-03-2005, 12:27 AM
This thread came about because of the Geico commericial. I can not stand the term Jerseyite - it grates on my nerves. My mother felt the same way and I asked several other people also and they hate the term.

Geico currently has a radio commercial which always plays on WPST, I'm sure it plays on other stations too. The commercial highlights many of the state symbols, but then ends with the ridiculous name for citizens of New Jersey - "Jerseyites" instead of the proper name "New Jerseyans". The only people I have ever heard use Jerseyites are New Yorkers. New Jerseyan is the norm and what others New Jerseyans seem to prefer.

Here is my letter I just sent to Geico....



I just wanted to let you know that the Geico commercial that plays on the radio in NJ must have been made by a New York ad agency. Pretty much only New Yorkers refer to New Jerseyans as "Jerseyites". Many New Jerseyans, including myself, resent being called "Jerseyites". It's good that the commercial highlights many of our state symbols, but it might have been good to do some research into what the citizens of New Jersey are called. It grates on my nerves everytime I hear the term Jerseyite at the end of the commercial.

Please, the next time you make a commercial, make sure you use our proper name - "New Jerseyans"

So you don't think it's just me - here are two sites which came up on google on the first page when I searched for "New Jerseyite".

"New Jerseyan or New Jerseyite? New Jerseyans HATE the term New Jerseyite, although both are listed in the Merriam-Webster dictionary"
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/2004/3992.htm

"...We in New Jersey (my state of birth) never used that bizarre term, so I wrote to Merriam-Webster, the most prestigious dictionary maker, to complain...If you check a recent Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, you'll see that Merriam-Webster now includes "New Jerseyan", first, and only then the hated "New Jerseyite". It really should abandon the ignorant misuse "New Jerseyite", but they may argue that they retain it for readers of older materials as tho people would be puzzled as to the meaning of "New Jerseyite" if it weren't given in a dictionary!
http://members.aol.com/Schoonmaker2000/NJ.html

Thank you -


So what do you think? New Jerseyan or the ridiculous term "New Jerseyite"? :roll:

davegering
11-03-2005, 05:46 AM
Wasnt this a bit that they did on the TV show TAXI about Deleware. ..My vote is for Jerseyan.

DebbieSans
11-03-2005, 01:35 PM
Wasnt this a bit that they did on the TV show TAXI about Deleware. ..My vote is for Jerseyan.

I just thought of the same thing. Rev. Jim was watching a news report on a vote being taken on what the people of Delaware would be called.

Deb

MITHRANDIR
11-04-2005, 12:26 AM
I just thought of the same thing. Rev. Jim was watching a news report on a vote being taken on what the people of Delaware would be called.

Deb

The vote went

I think New Jerseyans sounds better.

Delawareans sounds better as well. ;)
IIRC the episode is
#57: "Zen and the Art of Cab Driving"

JerseyDevil
11-04-2005, 12:33 AM
Well Geico did e-mail me back and said they were forwarding my e-mail to the advertising department. Hopefully I'll hear something back and I'll keep an ear out on whether they change the voice over for that one line.

DebbieSans
11-04-2005, 09:24 AM
The vote went

I think New Jerseyans sounds better.

Delawareans sounds better as well. ;)
IIRC the episode is
#57: "Zen and the Art of Cab Driving"

If I remember correctly, Delaweenians was also an option, but maybe I'm just getting old and imagining things. :)

Deb

JerseyDevil
11-04-2005, 10:22 AM
If I remember correctly, Delaweenians was also an option, but maybe I'm just getting old and imagining things. :)

Thats just wrong. :) I think I have always said Delwarians.

One of the things that bugs me is that Microsoft Word does not have Jerseyan in it's dictionary. It has Hoosier (Indianian) and Marylander in the dictionary as well as New Yorker and Californian. So why not New Jerseyan? At least they don't have Jerseyite though in their dictionary.

DebbieSans
11-04-2005, 10:46 AM
Thats just wrong. :) I think I have always said Delwarians.

One of the things that bugs me is that Microsoft Word does not have Jerseyan in it's dictionary. It has Hoosier (Indianian) and Marylander in the dictionary as well as New Yorker and Californian. So why not New Jerseyan? At least they don't have Jerseyite though in their dictionary.

Just thinking...where the heck did the "ite" come from anyways? Every other state I can think of is an "an", "ian", or "er"...Texan, Floridian, Pennsylvanian, Vermonter, Hawaiian. Hmmmm...what do they call people from Iowa? Try saying Iowaians. LOL I think I need more sleep.

Deb

JerseyDevil
11-04-2005, 11:06 AM
Just thinking...where the heck did the "ite" come from anyways? Every other state I can think of is an "an", "ian", or "er"...Texan, Floridian, Pennsylvanian, Vermonter, Hawaiian. Hmmmm...what do they call people from Iowa? Try saying Iowaians. LOL I think I need more sleep.

According to Websters online dictionary - it's Iowan (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=iowa). :) People from Ohio are called Buckeyes and not Ohioians. :D When we moved out to Indiana I told my parents, I may consider myself an Indianian - but never a Hoosier. Hoosier has this sound of being uneducated and ignorant. But as it turned out - I never abandoned New Jersey while I was living out of state. I used to say I was a New Jerseyan living in Indiana. :D Even when I went out to Oregon and people used to ask where I was from, I'd say I was from New Jersey. During that time was when I discovered that I was truly a New Jerseyan and that I had to come back to New Jersey. (okay - so that was a little off topic :D )

As for the origin of "ite" I'll have to do some research. My friend who is somewhat of a "linguist" of the English language says that "Jerseyite" is improper. "ite" refers to someone who holds a particular belief. Although again, websters says the first definition of "ite (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ite)" is a "resident of" and then give the example of "New Jerseyite".

DebbieSans
11-04-2005, 06:03 PM
According to Websters online dictionary - it's Iowan (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=iowa). :) .

I SWEAR I knew that...really I did! :rolleyes:

JerseyDevil
11-04-2005, 06:15 PM
I SWEAR I knew that...really I did! :rolleyes:
I believe you. :) Hmmm- or are you just trying to cover it up now? ;)

DebbieSans
11-05-2005, 09:59 PM
I believe you. :) Hmmm- or are you just trying to cover it up now? ;)

I'm just gonna have to leave you guessing on that one ;)

Proud New Jerseyite
01-19-2007, 05:09 AM
I disagree with the idea that the word New Jerseyan should entirely replace the classic and dignified New Jersyite. Have you ever read John McPhee?
The word represents the suburbanites urbanites and ruralites of this state and dispite your disliking it is just as aceptable as New Jerseyan and is not wrong.It has a stronger ring to it , New Jerseyan to me sounds like an adjective , Jerseyan sounds more female and Jerseyite more Male .
I understand that you deeply dislike it , but it has been around for longer than you and I and our grandparents put together.
People put down this state more than any other place on Earth and I for one am trying to change out of state ignorant perceptions whenever I can.
I'm not saying your opinion about the word is invalad, your taste is your taste. I'm saying that you have to realise that there can be two words with the same relitive meaning and both words can be valad, it is part of the beauty of language, I say tomato and you tomotto....
To each their own ....The term New Jerseyite is a strong and meaning full term with a harder sound, while Jerseyan might be easyer on your ears, Jerseyite as a word is an option that I choose to use, and It's useage goes way way way back , have you read the book John McPhee wrote about the Pine Barrens back in the 60's? Enough said.

JerseyDevil
01-19-2007, 11:17 AM
I disagree with the idea that the word New Jerseyan should entirely replace the classic and dignified New Jersyite.

If we were going to use the TRUE classic term for us - then we should be referred to as Jerseymen. That was the term used for residents of New Jersey during colonial times and the revolution.


Have you ever read John McPhee?

Yes, I have several of his books, including the one you mention about the Pine Barrens. However, just because he chooses to use it, doesn't mean that Jerseyite isn't used as a deragatory term by New Yorkers and others. Who decided to call us "Jerseyites" anyway? Was it New Yorkers as a way of putting us down? Why did it replace the term "Jerseyman" (which in my view is far better than Jerseyite and is still used to describe residents of the Isle of Jersey) and when did it come into existence? I do not like the term Jerseyite, just like I don't like the term "Yankee" to describe an American.

Marianita
01-19-2007, 02:13 PM
I much prefer being called a New Jerseyan as it just sounds more proper. Who would call a Califorian a Californiaite? ''New Jerseyan'' also makes it clear that the person is a native or long time resident of New Jersey. I suppose it is also whatever a person is comfortable with. Maranita

Proud New Jerseyite
01-19-2007, 10:42 PM
What about Jerseywoman? We are being silly at this point, saying that the term Jerseyite is dirogatory or a put down is like saying that Suburbanite is a put-down(or Urbanite, or Ruralite).
I was'nt aware of the word being dirogatory. It's no big deal my fellow Jerseyman, it might even be a matter of context! Think about that! Context can mean a lot!
P.s. i won't rout for teams with New York's name on them.I am a Devils fan and until they become the Brooklyn Nets I am a Nets fan.
How about spelling the word New Jerseyight, does that work for you?
Yankees is the name of a major league baseball team by the way, they wear that name with pride.
PEACE!

JerseyDevil
01-19-2007, 10:56 PM
What about Jerseywoman? We are being silly at this point, saying that the term Jerseyite is dirogatory or a put down is like saying that Suburbanite is a put-down(or Urbanite, or Ruralite).
I was'nt aware of the word being dirogatory. It's no big deal my fellow Jerseyman, it might even be a matter of context! Think about that! Context can mean a lot!

Yes context does stand for a lot. I just don't like New Jerseyite. I never have. That is my opinion. You have yours. I do not think bringing up the fact that we were called "Jerseymen" for hundreds of years is silly. I was merely pointing out - just because Jerseyite used to be "normal" doesn't mean it has to stay that way.


P.s. i won't rout for teams with New York's name on them.I am a Devils fan and until they become the Brooklyn Nets I am a Nets fan.

I root against any New Jersey team which wears NY on their uniform. You can see the website I am developing that points this out - DropNY.com (http://www.dropny.com/)


How about spelling the word New Jerseyight, does that work for you?

Why would that work any better? It's not the spelling I have a problem with.


Yankees is the name of a major league baseball team by the way, they wear that name with pride.

I wasn't referring the Yankees baseball team. I don't like being called a "Yankee" by the south nor by Europeans - just like I don't like being called a "New Jerseyite"

MITHRANDIR
01-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Well Geico did e-mail me back and said they were forwarding my e-mail to the advertising department. Hopefully I'll hear something back and I'll keep an ear out on whether they change the voice over for that one line.

No change yet. :( I do not here the commercial as often, but it is still the same. More than likely, the lizard people decided it was not worth the expense of redoing the commercial.

Maybe if they said New Yorkites. (Yikes! ;)) There would have been quicker response for change.

Marianita
01-20-2007, 10:06 PM
Hi New Jerseyite, You have a point there. Somehow the spelling ''Jerseyight'' does seem better but I cannot explain why. lol. I don't think it is derogatory at all. It is a personal preference. ''Jersey woman'' sounds good for me. My license plate says''JRSY HRT.'' I am sooo proud of my license plates. I tried to get JRSY GRL but it was taken. I applied some little stick on hearts to the license plates and it sure sends a message. Anyway I think ''Jerseyite'' sounds fine. Anything New York is off my list. lol. Take care. Marianita:)

Proud New Jerseyite
01-21-2007, 11:27 PM
I had never heard of the Red Bulls.I did some research and found out that there is no longer a pro soccer team called the New York/New Jersey Metrostars! They are now the New York Red Bull....or acording to wikipedia RED BULL NEW YORK and they still play in the Meadowlands.
WAIT A MINUTE I thought there was a "LAW" That Christie Whittman put in place saying that any professional team that plays in NJ from now on has to have New Jersey's name on it!
What the hell happened ? How is it that there is another pro level team playing under NEW yORK's name at the Meadowlands? I could swear there was a rule put in place , hence the name New York/New Jersey Metrostars.
Is it the Red Bull energy drink (cafinated crack cola) that bought their way out of that law?
I bet Dick Cody is responsable, any law is breakable when you are a big money corporation as long as there is a govener who only cares about money, Bear hunts and smoking bans.Cody made it a priority to sign the NY giants and Jets to a one hundred year deal and got it done.
F Cody, F the New york Red bull , it's bull ****!

Marianita
01-22-2007, 12:24 AM
Hi proud new Jerseyite, It sounds like a lot of bull to me. lol. Maybe Cody got the idea from that red bull cola drink. He may be getting bored or something. Marianita:lmao:

JerseyDevil
01-22-2007, 01:06 AM
I had never heard of the Red Bulls.I did some research and found out that there is no longer a pro soccer team called the New York/New Jersey Metrostars! They are now the New York Red Bull....or acording to wikipedia RED BULL NEW YORK and they still play in the Meadowlands.
WAIT A MINUTE I thought there was a "LAW" That Christie Whittman put in place saying that any professional team that plays in NJ from now on has to have New Jersey's name on it!
What the hell happened ? How is it that there is another pro level team playing under NEW yORK's name at the Meadowlands? I could swear there was a rule put in place , hence the name New York/New Jersey Metrostars.
Is it the Red Bull energy drink (cafinated crack cola) that bought their way out of that law?
I bet Dick Cody is responsable, any law is breakable when you are a big money corporation as long as there is a govener who only cares about money, Bear hunts and smoking bans.Cody made it a priority to sign the NY giants and Jets to a one hundred year deal and got it done.
F Cody, F the New york Red bull , it's bull ****!
Proud New Jerseyite - Yes again it was one of Codey's great deals. You can read more about it in the New JERSEY MetroStars renamed New YORK Red Bulls (http://forum.aboutnewjersey.com/showthread.php?t=297) 85 million dollars of tax payers money is going to build the stadium for the Red Bulls in Harrison (across the river from Newark).

The Metrostars by the way - had dropped the "NY/NJ" part of their name for a number of years. Also in the "Spectator Sports (http://forum.aboutnewjersey.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18)" forum, you can read about the Giants deal and the Jets. Like you, once the Nets leave NJ, I will also not be a fan of them. I already have a problem with the Nets because they don't want to be called "New Jersey", but just want to be known as the Nets now.

[edit] I had also thought that Christie Whitman or Tom Kean had instituted a law that required any team playing in New Jersey take the NJ name - after the Giants and Jets refused. Also, the crack cola company were the ones that bought the team. It's the only professional team that is itself an advertisement for a product. I refuse to have anything to do with Red Bull drinks.

BTW Marianita- Welcome back. I was wondering where you had gone off to. :) Nice to see the proud "New Jerseyan" Californian. :D

Marianita
01-22-2007, 07:07 PM
Thankyou Jersey Devil. I have been working like mad to save money for my next trip to New Jersey. I am planning to go in May. I have missed you too. I stay busy working to stash $$ for Cherry Hill Mall and important things like that. Last year Strawbridges was closed for remodeling while I was there. lol By the way the New Jersey citizen is 4 months old and getting big. He looks like his daddy,''Jersey Rich.'' lol. Take care. Marianita

Jersey Warren
01-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Actually, when I was growing up in New Jersey in the 1950s and 60s, most people did use the term Jerseyite. I never particularly liked the sound of it, but I didn't know of an alternative.

I first encountered the term New Jerseyan in New Jersey Monthly magazine in the 1970s and liked that term much better. I don't know if NJM's exclusive use of it popularized it, but Jerseyan now seems to predominate over Jerseyite.

A couple of other states use the -ite ending for natives of their states, including Wisconsinite and New Hampshirite.

I always associate -ite with Brooklyn, so if I hear Jerseyite I think of an urban transplant from New York, whereas New Jerseyan to me sounds like a preppy resident of one of New Jersey's suburbs. (Suburbanite? Good grief!:eek:)

Marianita
01-24-2007, 12:17 AM
Hi Jersey Warren. How have you been? I was not aware that the term Jerseyite was previously used. I think of myself as a New Jerseyan as it has a softer sound to it. Anything ending in ''ite'' has a grating kind of sound but whatever people are comfortable with. The term ''New Jerseyan'' could very well have come from New Jersey Monthly as it is a widely read magazine. I thorougly enjoy every issue of that magazine. You are right about Brooklynite. LOL. That sounds ghastly. Marianita:lmao: